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Ellis been told he is not needed
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Belle Vue National Stadium
Phil The Ace replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Hopefully he will run the academy once it gets going. -
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/other-sport/speedway/belle-vue-aces-chris-morton-12139248 Chris Morton speaks out now
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Belle Vue National Stadium
Phil The Ace replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/other-sport/speedway/belle-vue-aces-chris-morton-12139248 Chris Morton is standing upto David gordon. -
BTW just guessing st fricke going Coventry. He lives there. His sponsor is in Coventry and wants him in Coventry so will end up there. Yep holder seems to be heading our way with what I'm hearing. And I would love him here. He could do with a year away from poole
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No. Off to Coventry. Lucky u
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Looking for new jobs ########################################## I've give it ago. Belle vue 2017 C holder 12.01 Cook 9.88 S Worrall 8.51 Klindt 5.42 Jacobs 5.36 Bewley 4 Williamson 3.76 = 48.94 I'd love to add Richie to the team and swap it around but it's bloody hard
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Nope no season tickets for sale as of yet.
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Which Speedway Clubs Are Making A Profit.
Phil The Ace replied to Sherborne Green's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
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Belle Vue National Stadium
Phil The Ace replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Yes we may not have seen the capability of the stadium but as we have just found out. The promotion wasn't very good at it Let's see what new promotors can do. And if they can't utilise the stadium fully then yes. Let's get worried. For now I'm looking forward to seein big changes in the way the stadium is operated under a new management team -
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Phil The Ace replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
The racing was superb all year. But like other clubs fans only come out the woodwork for play offs and bank holidays. The opening debacle put ppl off and still I see ppl say they refuse to go untill they have proved the track is fixed. The mind boggles with some speedway fans -
Belle Vue National Stadium
Phil The Ace replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Hahahaha. Your funny you -
Belle Vue National Stadium
Phil The Ace replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I'd say about thag at Kirky lane. Maybe a little less. But to envisage 1800-2500 is just ridiculous. But look at every bank holiday crowd and play off crowds. They were massive. So the fans are there. We just need a promotor that makes them come more than 3-4 times a year -
Belle Vue National Stadium
Phil The Ace replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I'd say on average this year we were getting about 1500. And that was alot more than next door. Crowds were poor at murky lane -
Belle Vue National Stadium
Phil The Ace replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Hopefully whoever is interested in taking us over, they will present MCC with a new business plan that is within the speedway budget. Lower the expectant attendance figures from 1800 to 1300 and budget the re payments (rent) on that figure. Hopefully the council will listen. But it's going to take 1 hell of a pitch to the council for them to change the way the rent is paid back. Hopefully they won't be as rubbish as the apprentice candidates this year. -
He's a good lad is Jim. Good appointment
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It's a double edged sword really. The crowds dont pay for the riders in Sweden or Poland. It's all about sponsorship. The clubs need to go and get massive sponsorship That pays for the riders Unfortunately sponsorship (unless your at poole) seems to be hard to find Clubs only probably get about 20k a season from there main team sponsor. That's not enough for the season. Get sponsors in. Get it to £13 speedway and £10 in championship and flood the stadiums in Following year we improve the product and keep improving it year on year. Speedway over here needs to start from the bottom and build. This may take a few years The question you have to ask though is have we got years left to save the sport in this country??
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Mark lemons wife if I am correct is marketing manager at Aintree race course. Get her involved and use her contacts to market belle vue speedway
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Yeh every team will look poor but at least it should give the leagues some credibility come end of the year for promotion/relegation. No premiership team is now safe. So some tv broadcasters like BBC make take more interest in three sport. Clubs needed to.cut cost and that's what they have done. But they have given them the option if they want to, to get a big GP star in. 100% there fault. They knew there was a problem but thought the lads would still ride. Forgetting that the line up had some world class prima Donna's who would refuse to ride it. (Rightly so BTW) I spoke with some NL boys and PL boys who said they would have rode it but taken extra care on 3rd and 4th bend. If the new promotion was to re run the meeting and get a similar type of line up or even better line up do you think they would get a 3000+ crowd again. It would be a nice money spinner to start the season and there tenure at belle vue
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There it's lots of ways. Open practices 4 days a week. You would probably get 10 riders on each day. £40 per rider totalling £400 for the day. X that by 4 times a week and that's £1600 a week extra income. You can have amateur meetings like Scunthorpe They had planned to.bring flat track meetings over the winter but I'm unsure what kind of crowds they get. If we get a new owner the first thing I would do is start arranging a meeting for boxing day or any meeting around that time Get some decent PL/EL riders that are based over here. I bet they get a few 1000 people in for it. Easy money
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I don't see the PC meeting as the start of the fall from grace. They took the massive debt from murky Lane next door. And the council knew this and still allowed David gordon to run the show. He never had the money to do so. If they wanted a new track I would have bought out the GRA for cheap as they are skint and done up the run down stadium. Or Do what Scunthorpe and Somerset have done. Dump a brilliant race track in the middle of a field and each year improve things around the premises. Much cheaper to do. Saying that I love the NSS and wouldn't want to be anywhere else. BBC news stated there a few interested parties and that we should know who's buying it next week. Whoever they are they are keeping it a secret as even I've not heard any rumours which is a tad strange. I think it will be a shock to people once new owners are revealed, or if they are revealed. I'd say some kind of Peter Collins lead consortium putting Mark lemon as promotor and getting in a new team manager. But I'm probably way of the scale with that one. Nope. There was a problem with the pitch originally as the construction company idioted that up. But the last few weeks there have been people playing footy on the pitch. Who I don't know and if they pay for it I don't know. Wasn't the pitch on the infield for the school next door to use?????
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Regarding the stadium being given u defused away from the speedway. I may have told a little white lie. Not on purpose. I just forgot about these nights. They have had a motown night which was sold out They got an Elvis tribute band coming up which is sold out And they got a few weeks of Xmas parties which are now sold out. Whether these are now in danger of not happening I don't know. But should imagine they will still go ahead Incidentally the Halloween night got cancelled
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https://companycheck.co.uk/company/07608471/B-V-ARENA-LIMITED/companies-house-data HELP, I don't understand this. How can David gordon and Chris Morton be in so much debt yet George Carswell is in the black by 300k. All in the same company. Yes George may have the rider assets but they don't add up to 300k surely
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/belle-vue-aces-bosses-say-12129749 Gives a tiny bit of info. We could have it rent free untill work had finished. Then we had to start paying rent which we never did
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Belle Vue National Stadium
Phil The Ace replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I'm. Sure there is alot more to be released within the coming weeks. And hopefully the truth will come out at some point. There's no point pointing fingers now. We need a solution and fast and move forward. A fresh start sounds Good to me