T.N.T.

Dont agree. This was a British Grand Prix months after the loss of Lee and think it would have been wrong to do a minutes silence so long after the event. #Rico shirts worn by a large number of fans was all that was needed here and well done to all those who did.

NOTE; Anyone that has selected Kenneth Bjerre (or Little too late) will have KK riding in his place ..... same as Vaculik for Hampel.

ROBBIE ..... If you read the rules, the riders you select as a psrtnership can NOT be in your 4 selections ..... you have Bomber in both

Sorted ..... now on 119 points and in 14th place ...... 12 below me

Sorry for the delay in posting the updated table but laptop wont stay on BSF so have to use old PC Despite failing to score (apart from 10 for posting), MDMC82 keeps hold of top spot but its really close in the top 10 now and even below that there are predictors easily capable of pulling points back ...... especially when you see what's in for Cardiff !!! 165 = mdmc82 163 = T.N.T. 162 = dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 162 = noggin 155 = Rico 154 = cj69 151 = PhillipsSR 143 = iceman 141 = Pantherman 141 = Mark246 139 = Homer 135 = beercellar 127 = WillamFJ 119 = Geoff Capes / JCookie 117 = Diamonds Rock 114 = Gray 112 = Hilly 112 = Screm 112 = Racers and Royals 112 = Bomber Hammer 112 = Smiles 111 = refereerick 111 = Psycho3a 107 = dump the clutch 101 = Brummie Kev 96 = DUKEY BOY 96 = DeeksYaMahaga 92 = Gavan 87 = Waihekeaces 84 = JamieE 71 = Stilton Panther 67 = Bandits4Life 65 = SCB 63 = Kiwi 55 = Robbie B 43 = PTW 39 = beesboybert 23 = White Rabbit 23 = Mark 24 = Geoff Capes 11 = Hunty the Brummie 10 = Cockney Pirate 6 = Steve R 4 = Starman2006 3 = Dudleywood4eva -2 = mark evans -3 = Diddy -4 = Full Throttle -4 = Woz01 -7 = Comet10 -9 = WTM -10 = Bandits4Eva -11 = Kris Ad -14 = Baz Brush -15 = Patto25 -17 = Superguest CARDIFF PREDICTIONS Not only do you have to choose 4 riders as normal ..... you also have to pick ONE of the special pairings I have combined together ..... HOWEVER !! Not only do you have to select a pairing, you CAN NOT select either of the riders in the pairings in your selections ..... So if you pick Team GB, the four riders you select cannot feature Harris or Nicholls ..... ok ..... If together, Bomber and Scotty score 14 points, you get 4 points ..... if they score 6 points, you get -4 points RIDERS 13 = Greg Hancock 12 = Chris Holder 10 = Nicki Pedersen 9 = Andreas Jonsson 9 = Jason Crump 9 = Emil Sayfutdinov 9 = Tomasz Gollob 7 = Fredrik Lindgren 7 = Antonio Lindback 7 = Jarek Hampel (Vaculik) 6 = Peter Ljung 5 = Chris Harris 5 = Scott Nicholls 5 = Kenneth Bjerre 4 = Hans Andersen 3 = Bjarne Pedersen PAIRINGS ..... Choose just ONE !! TEAM GB = Chris Harris & Scott Nicholls ........ 10 KANAGROO KIDS = Chris Holder & Jason Crump. ....... 21 TWO TRIBES = Greg Hancock & Emil Sayfutdinov ........ 22 MAMA MIA = Andreas Jonsson & Peter Ljung ........ 15 DANCING QUEEN = Fredrik Lindgren & Antonio Linback ........ 14 BROTHERS GRIM = Nicki Pedersen & Bjarne Pedersen ........ 13 POLES APART = Tomasz Gollob & Jarek Hampel (Vaculik) ........ 16 LITTLE TWO LATE = Kenneth Bjerre & Hans Andersen ........ 9 MY PREDICTIONS ...... 9 = Jason Crump 9 = Emil Sayfutdinov 7 = Fredrik Lindgren 7 = Jarek Hampel 10 = TEAM GB (Harris and Nicholls) NOTE; When selecting individual riders .... if you choose either of the Pedersen's, state which one or the lowest score counts only See you at the Prince of Wales probably .... Wolves shirt and possibly a TNT baseball hat !!

The updated leaderboard will be posted here .... possibly tonight. Laptop wont work on BSF so have to use old PC when I get the chance. I can say that the big scorers were ....... 32 points for MARK246 29 pints for BEERCELLAR 27 points for PHILLIPSR 26 points for NOGGIN and ROBBIEB 25 points for CJ69 Worst score was 2 points for SCREM ..... remember you score 10 for posting !!! ...... other poor scores were 4pts for RACERSNROYALS and STILTON PANTHER ...... 6pts for JAMIEE ..... 8pts for WILLIAMFJ Get ready for CARDIFF ..... It's going to be a bit difdferent again.

I'm hoping my usual parking space is still available .... 5 minute walk to the stadium and costs nothing !!!

If the tickets are still available I would be interested in having them for some regular OAP's that attend Wolverhampton each week and would also look at providing them with transport on the day if possible. If they are still available, let me know please so I can arrange things this end.

For the last four or five times I have always got tickets on the day. However, if anyone has spare tickets through a member having to back out, I would be interested in buying the ticket off them if the price is right and where it is for. ..... So any spare tickets, let me know please.

ITALIAN GP PREDICTIONS 12 Greg Hancock 7 Fredrik Lindgren 4 Chris Harris 3 Peter Ljung

ITALIAN GP PREDICTIONS 12 Nicki Pedersen 12 Tomasz Gollob 12 Greg Hancock 12 Jason Crump 10 Andreas Jonsson 10 Chris Holder 9 Emil Sayfutdinov 7 Antonio Lindback 7 Fredrik Lindgren 7 Jarek Hampel (Vaculik) 7 Kenneth Bjerre 5 Hans Andersen 4 Chris Harris 3 Bjarne Pedersen 3 Peter Ljung 1 Nicolas Covatti WC

If the Grid Girls are too busy with FanZone and doing the start lines I will gladly step in .... Anyone else willing to help form a team join the queue behind me Really pleased my holiday had to be postponed as I will be going this year after missing last year .... really looking forward to the day out in the streets, at the PoW and meeting a few names and putting faces to them. ..... Should be easy to spot this year with a Wolves shirt and a TNT baseball hat on ..... havent decided on trousers yet

WHAT THEY SCORED IN CROATIA 8 Jurica Pavlic, 7 Andreas Jonsson, 7 Nicki Pedersen, 7 Chris Harris, 4 Tomasz Gollob, 3 Hans Andersen, 2 Fredrik Lindgren, 2 Bjarne Pedersen, 2 Kenneth Bjerre, 0 Antonio Lindback, -1 Jason Crump, -2 Greg Hancock, -2 Emil Sayfutdinov, -5 Peter Ljung and -6 Chris Holder. ..... Martin Vaculik/Jarek Hampel were not listed Congratulations to SMILES who top scored tonight with an impressive 37 points from his selections of Nicki Pedersen 7, Andreas Jonsson 7, Jurica Pavlic 8 and Chris Harris 7 added to the 10pts for posting. Other big scores were done by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 31, Phillips SR 30, Hilly 30 and Homer 30. .... mcmd82 scored 29 to hit the top spot, taking over from myself who had a poor round with just 15pts. LEADERBOARD after CROATIA 155 = mdmc82 146 = dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 144 = T.N.T. 138 = Rico 136 = noggin 129 = cj69 126 = iceman 124 = PhillipsSR 122 = Homer 119 = WillamFJ 119 = Pantherman 112 = Hilly 110 = Screm 109 = Mark246 108 = Racers and Royals 106 = beercellar 102 = Gray 101 = Brummie Kev 98 = Diamonds Rock 97 = Smiles 96 = refereerick 96 = DUKEY BOY 96 = DeeksYaMahaga 96 = Psycho3a 95 = Bomber Hammer 95 = JCookie 91 = dump the clutch 87 = Waihekeaces 78 = JamieE 77 = Gavan 67 = Stilton Panther 67 = Bandits4Life 65 = SCB 63 = Kiwi 43 = PTW 39 = beesboybert 29 = Robbie B 23 = White Rabbit 23 = Mark 11 = Geoff Capes 11 = Hunty the Brummie 10 = Cockney Pirate 6 = Steve R 4 = Starman2006 -2 = mark evans -3 = Diddy -4 = Full Throttle -4 = Woz01 -7 = Comet10 -9 = WTM -10 = Bandits4Eva -11 = Kris Ad -14 = Baz Brush -15 = Patto25 -17 = Superguest

12 Greg Hancock 9 Emil Sayfutdinov 8 Andreas Jonsson 7 Fredrik Lindgren I was having problems logging in, but have sorted it now and my email account, so will update tonight or in the morning for tonights scores. Yes there is a mistake in the list as I forgot to add Martin Vaculik as the replacement for Jarek Hampel .... so for this round, Vaculik is nothing more than a spoiler !!

After a months break for the World Team Cup, we are back at the Pedictor Game with the Croatian GP You get 10 points for posting and a point for every point your selected riders (4) score more than I have predicted .... but lose a point for each point below the predicted score. NO POSTING OR EDITING AFTER 6PM NEXT SATURDAY CROATIA GP PREDICTIONS 12 Greg Hancock 12 Nicki Pedersen 12 Chris Holder 11 Jason Crump 9 Emil Sayfutdinov 9 Tomasz Gollob 8 Andreas Jonsson 7 Fredrik Lindgren 6 Antonio Lindback 5 Hans Andersen 5 Peter Ljung 5 Kenneth Bjerre 4 Jurica Pavlic WC 3 Bjarne Pedersen 3 Chris Harris

Those that selected Troy Batchelor knew they were getting Darcy Ward ..... which is why some thought he would be in double figures !!! HILLY was excluded under the "2 minute time limit" ...... now its over to the GP's again ad will do the predictions for the next round soon.

He would have scored the points as MBJ was a replacement for Madsen ...... just as Ward was a replacement for Batchelor

Had you have posted after the time stating what your 5.47pm should have said, maybe. However there is no 5.47pm post there and only the 6.05pm post Remember, I put Madsen in the team, but if a rider is replaced (which he was) then you score what his replacement scores too. .... Thats why whoever posted Batchelor actually were predicting Darcy Ward. So Rules are Rules and I can only go with the 6.05pm post so ...... EXCLUDED Sorry ...... but its only a game

First and foremost, the best team won and they all played their part in winning it without using a joker. In MJJ, MBJ, Madsen, Klindt and Michelsen they have the foundations for a bright future along with Poland. As for the JOKER and the tactical riding of dropping points ...... well it made the sport look stupid in my opinion and with people placing bets on, it could be seen as fixing the result. .... If a football team was 3-0 up, would they conceed 2 goals to get the 25/1 correct score ? ...... Would a jockey drop from second to third to get the tricast ? Had the rule been that a team has to be 8 behind, I doubt you would see this happening as a joker at present could draw level with the leaders. ..... Using it when 8 behind it at best would still leave them trailing by 2 Q- I thought the ruling was a team could use one TAC SUB (where a rider replaces another) and one JOKER ..... If they wish to use them in the same race, fine. My question is, how come Russia used one JOKER but two Tac Sub changes ? maybe it would be better to let a team use one tac sub ride and one Joker, but the Joker can only be used by a programmed ride and not a tac sub.

The post reads it was posted at 6.05pm ..... thats too late and excluded ..... Sorry

WELL WELL WELL ...... After a thrilling and entertaining World Team Cup Final its congratulations to the school kds of Danish Speedway on winning Gold in Mallila ahead of the Aussies, Ruskies and Swedes. While riders were throwing races and points towards the end, Predictors in this game were biting their finger nails as they watched points slipping away .... but the rules of speedway dont stop riders from suddenly having "engine failures" on the last bend ...... but We DO have rules and as in the previous rounds (GP Predictor game) ...... WE STICK TO THEM So sadly HILLY ...... You missed the start and you were excluded under the 1 minute ruling ..... TOO LATE What really hurts is ...... had your late post been accepted ....... YOU WOULD HAVE WON ............ but you havent !!! So in reverse order ....... 8th ... HILLY (excluded) 7th ... SCREM ..... 50pts 6th ... RACERS AND ROYALS ..... 45pts 5th ... ROBBIE B ..... 44pts 4th ... SUPERSTAR1 ..... 42pts 3RD ......... REFEREERICK ....... 40pts 2ND .......... FUDGE ....... 39pts leaving just one PREDICTOR !!!! CHAMPION P A N D O R U M 37 POINTS CONGRATULATIONS ...... Thanks for playing and hope you had a bit of fun PS; If anyone doesnt like the rules .... please write in to DONTGIVEATOSSIMTHEBOSS, 1 Loserville, Maybe NY USA

PLEASE NOTE; .... You need to predict a score for ALL 16 riders ...... You need to predict the scores for the riders I listed only ..... so if Darcy Ward does replace Troy Batchelor, you stillhave to predict the score for Batchelor (not Ward) ...... remember, that if a rider is replaced, you sore what his replacement scores. ..... so Madsen and Batrchelor are in the list (not Jensen and Ward) Good Luck ...... think this could be a meeting that goes to the last heat.

If there was to be changes I would rather it was something like .... The World Team Cup (4 riders and 1 sub) to be held every other year Then in the other year, there is the WORLD CUP where each country is represented by 8 rider teams (6 + 2 reserves) using the much tied and tested old International Format over 18 heats If it was to be held in England say ..... you would have 12 countries in four groups of 3 Groups 1 and 3 ride on Monday, Wednesday and Friday .... Groups 2 and 4 ride on the Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday Winners of Group 1 and Group 3 race off on the Monday .... Group 2 ad 4 winners on the Wednesday ..... The final to be held on the Saturday .... (or best of 3 on Friday, Saturday and Sunday at 3 different tracks) Sweden, Poland, Denmark, Russia, Australia, England, Germany, and Czech Republic would be joined by the 4 qualifiers, possibly from Italy, USA, Slovenia, Slovakia, Latvia, Finland, Scotland, Ukraine, Croatia etc

So we now know the four countries set to race in the final of the 2012 Speedway World Team Cup Final ....... and we now know the EIGHT managers that will be in the FINAL PREDICTION First through to the final is ROBBIE B who top scored in the race off predictor with 12 points after picking a strong quartet of MJJ, Buczkowski, Iversen and Pedersen. Next through with a score of 10 points is REFEREERICK who despite selecting Pepe, he also selected Woffinden, MJJ and Pedersen. FUDGE with 8 points makes it through in third place, just ahead of RACERS AND ROYALS on 7 points. .... After just squeezing into the race off, PANDORUM makes it to the final after scoring 4 points and then we have the final three qualifiers who all scored 3 points who are HILLY, SUPERSTAR1 and SCREM Just missing out are ....... CJ69 2pts, SPOOK 2 pts and NOGGIN 2 pts who were well clear of the bottom five of SAMTHEPALACEMAN -1, SKITTLE FACE -1, DIDDY -2, HOMER -3 and last but ot least BOMBER HAMMER who scored -7 after putting his faith in Iversen, Janowski, A Dryml and Scott Nicholls. DENMARK; MJJ 4, Iversen 3, Pedersen 2, Madsen -3 POLAND; Buczkowski 3, Gollob 3, Janowski -2, Pepe -2 TEAM GB; Woffinden 6, Bomber -1, King -3, Nicholls -6 CZECH; Franc 9, L Dryml 0, Kus -2, A Dryml -2 So the 8 remaining predictors now have the final hurdle and its a massive hurdle to clear if they are going to lift the title Here are the 16 riders likely to line up in the World Team Cup Final on Saturday night .... SWEDEN Andreas Jonsson Fredrik Lindgren Tomas H Jonasson Peter Ljung RUSSIA Emil Sayfutdinov Grigory Laguta Artem Laguta Roman Povazhny AUSTRALIA Jason Crump Chris Holder Davey Watt Troy Batchelor DENMARK Nicki Pedersen Neils K Iversen Michael Jepsen Jensen Leon Madsen All you have to do now is ......... predict what each rider will score If you predict Chris Holder will score 13 points but he actually scores 10, you get 3 points If you think there will be changes to these line ups (Darcy Ward / Troy Batchelor ..... Leon Madsen / Kenneth Bjerre), you still predict the score for the rider listed. ..... So if you think Darcy will ride and score 12, you have to predict Troy will get 12 The one with the lowest total at the end will be ...... CHAMPION !!! NOTE; All posts MUST be made by 6pm on Saturday ...... no editing or posting after this time GOOD LUCK

Still need selections from ..... Hilly refereerick homer Diddy samthepalaceman Fudge Racers and Royals Will post the 8 finalists after tonights meeting and the predictions for the final .... that have a twist !!!