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So, here is the latest chart. I'm still including those riders with eight or more teams, knowing that there may well be one or two missing. Steve 18 - ALAN MOGRIDGE (Arena Essex, Berwick, Bradford, Canterbury, Crayford, Eastbourne, Hackney, Ipswich, London, Middlesbrough, Peterborough, Rye House, Sheffield, Stoke, Swindon, Wimbledon, Wolves, Workington) 16 - JUSTIN ELKINS (Arena Essex, Eastbourne, Eastbourne Starlets, Edinburgh, Exeter, Hull, Isle of Wight, Long Eaton, Poole, Reading, Rye House, Stoke, Stoke Spitfires, Weymouth, Wimbledon, Workington) 16 - WAL MORTON (Bradford (Greenfield), Bradford (Odsal), Bristol, Coventry, Glasgow WC, Hackney, Harringay, Ipswich, Liverpool, Middlesbrough, Newcastle, Norwich, West Ham, West Ham Res, Weymouth, Wimbledon) 16 - TONY FEATHERSTONE (Boston, Bradford, Crayford, Exeter, Hackney, King's Lynn, King's Lynn II, Leicester, Long Eaton, Milton Keynes, Newport, Peterborough, Poole, Scunthorpe, Sheffield, Wolves) 15 - JAMES BIRKINSHAW (Belle Vue Colts, Berwick, Birmingham, Boston, Buxton, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Linlithgow, Newcastle, Sheffield, Sheffield Prowlers, St. Austell, Stoke, Wolves 2nd, Workington) 15 - MARK BURROWS (Belle Vue, Buxton, Cleveland (Boro II), Cleveland (Redcar II), Coventry, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Hull, Long Eaton, Middlesbrough, Scunthorpe, Sheffield, Stoke, Stoke Spitfires, Wimbledon) 15 - GEORGE MAJOR(Aldershot, Belle Vue, Birmingham, Cradley, Doncaster, Glasgow, Leicester, Neath, Newcastle, Norwich, Oxford, Sheffield, St. Austell, Wolves, Yarmouth) 14 - STAN STEVENS (Barrow, Chesterton, Cradley, Exeter, King's Lynn, Mildenhall, New Cross, Oxford, Rayleigh, Romford, Rye House, Southampton, Rayleigh, West Ham) 13 - NEIL COLLINS (Belle Vue, Ellesmere Port, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Hull, Leicester, Newport, Sheffield, Somerset, Stoke, Swindon, Wolves, Workington) 12 - DAVID BLACKBURN (Belle Vue, Berwick, Boston, Glasgow, Leicester, Long Eaton, Middlesbrough, Milton Keynes, Newcastle, Reading, Sheffield, Workington) 12 - ERIC HOCKADAY (Aldershot, California, Coventry, Cradley, Exeter, Leicester, Oxford, Rayleigh, Rye House, Sheffield, Southern Rovers, Stoke) 12 - CHRIS JULIAN (Bristol, Cradley, Exeter, Glasgow, Glasgow WC, Mildenhall, Neath, Newport, Plymouth, Southampton, St. Austell, Weymouth) 12 - DES LUKEHURST (Eastbourne, Exeter, Exeter 'B', Hackney, Long Eaton, Newport, Oxford, Romford, Swindon, Wembley, West Ham, Wolves) 12 - GEOFF PENNIKET (Cradley, Eastbourne, King's Lynn, Long Eaton, New Cross, Newpool, Newport, Plymouth, Poole, Rayleigh, Romford, Workington) 12 - NIGEL SPARSHOTT (Birmingham, Crayford, Exeter, King's Lynn, Long Eaton, Middlesbrough, Milton Keynes, Oxford, Poole, Rye House, Swindon, Wimbledon) 12 - KEN VALE (Aldershot, Canterbury, Cradley, Eastbourne, Exeter, King's Lynn II, Long Eaton, Neath, Newport, Oxford, Weymouth, Workington) 11 - DANNY DUNTON (Birmingham, Belle Vue, Belle Vue Res, Harringay, Ipswich, Long Eaton, Norwich, Oxford, Swindon, Weymouth, Yarmouth) 11 - REIDAR EIDE (Coatbridge, Edinburgh, Exeter, Leicester, Newport, Poole, Reading, Sheffield, Swindon, Wembley, Wolves) 11 - TOMMY SWEETMAN (Aldershot, California, Exeter, Hackney, New Cross, Norwich II, Rayleigh Rovers, Rye House, Southern Rovers, Swindon Res, Wolves) 11 - ROB WOFFINDEN (Berwick, Birmingham, Boston, Edinburgh, Halifax, Milton Keynes, Middlesbrough, Rye House, Scunthorpe, Sheffield, Stoke) 10 - JIMMY SQUIBB (Canterbury, Cradley, Eastbourne, Exeter, Harringay, Ipswich, New Cross, Plymouth, Poole, Southampton) 10 - DEREK TIMMS (Aldershot, Cradley, Crayford, Doncaster, Middlesbrough, New Cross, Plymouth, St. Austell, Wimbledon Res, Wolves) 9 - MAL CORRADINE (Birmingham, Cradley, Doncaster, Long Eaton, Middlesbrough, Oxford, Stoke, Weymouth, Wolves) 9 - ALAN COWLAND (Exeter, Hull, Leicester, Mildenhall, Newport, Peterborough, Wimbledon, Wolves, Workington) 9 - DAVID CRANE (Coventry, Exeter, Hackney, Ipswich, King's Lynn, King's Lynn II, Norwich, Oxford, Sheffield) 9 - ERIC EADON (Aldershot, Brafield, Coventry Res, Cradley, Edinburgh, Rayleigh Rovers, Southern Rovers, Stoke, Wolves) 9 - JOHN FITZPATRICK (Ipswich, Middlesbrough, Oxford Res, Rayleigh, Southampton, Stoke, West Ham, Wimbledon Res, Yarmouth) 9 - KEITH HARVEY (Birmingham, C. Palace, High Beech, Luton, New Cross, Norwich, Stamford Bridge, West Ham, Wimbledon) 9 - BRIAN LEONARD (Hackney, Leicester, Newpool, Newport, Oxford, Poole, Swindon, Wembley, West Ham) 9 - STEVE JOHNSTON (Arena, Belle Vue, Coventry, Ipswich, Long Eaton, Oxford, Sheffield, Swindon, Wolves) 8 - TONY EADON, CLIVE HITCH, DAVE JESSUP, GORDON KENNETT, MARK LORAM, GARRY MIDDLETON, CHARLIE MONK, JOHN POYSER, GLYN TAYLOR
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Okay, two things... Firstly, you're up late! Secondly, who are you??? Drop me a PM, 'cos I've been wondering who you are... Anyway, I've moved the previous list to follow this post, as Des Lukehurst, Tommy Sweetman, John Fitzpatrick, and David Crane have entered the charts... Steve
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He was a lot of things before he was a Highwayman! He actually started in 1952, appearing for St. Austell and Wolves. He was out of the sport from 1953 until 1959, before retiring again in 1964! Then, he came out of retirement to ride for Crayford. I was actually surprised how many teams he'd ridden for, and that doesn't include Birmingham in 1960. Not involved in any official fixtures, the Brummies teame comprised an an impressive line-up of "loaned" riders, such as Ron Johnston, Peter Kelly, Eric Eadon, Arne Pander, Graham Warren, Peter Craven and Nigel Boocock! As far as the 1959 National Reserve League, the other riders to appear for Wimbledon were Jim Tebby, Cyril Brine, Ronnie Rolfe, Ernie Baker, Bob Andrews, Gerry King, Bobby Croombs, Gil Goldfinch, and - somewhat surprisingly - Johnny Fitzpatrick, Dave Hankins, and Ivor Brown! Some other interesting names in the Reserves League included Tony Robinson (Belle Vue), Graham Warren and Nigel Boocock (Coventry), Alf Hagon (Leicester), John Chamberlain (Norwich), Ken Adams and Howdy Byford (Oxford), Reg Duval (Poole), Brian Brett (Soton), and Leo McAuliffe (Swindon). Steve
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It may surprise you, but Wimbledon entered a team in the National Reserve League in 1959. Even though not all fixtures were completed (of course, that has happened at senior level anyway!), it was structured as a league. As far as I'm concerned, official fixtures should include any recognised "league", particularly when it is under the banner of a NATIONAL League. Competitions such as the Southern Area League, Scottish Junior League, National Reserve League, British Conference etc are all - and certainly should be considered - legitimate and OFFICIAL leagues. They are/were either open to teams not competing in other leagues, and/or included certain restrictions and limitations on the eligibility of individuals. Steve
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We have another mover; Geoff Penniket moves up to 12 teams with the addition of Newpool in 1964. We also have some new entries, in Derek Timms (10), Danny Dunton and Eric Eadon (both 9), and Charlie Monk (8). Steve
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Sorry, my bad! You know what though; that moves Eric Hockaday up the table... Steve
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That's the problem - there are "possibles". With the Reserve and Junior Leagues, I think they can justifiably be counted as separate, simply because they were involved in league action, quite often at the same time as the senior teams. Overall, there aren't going to be that many riders affected though. In the 50's, when we had Reserves Leagues, most riders failed to establish themselves in the sport, and coupled with good old "loyalty", we really didn't see that many "track-hopping". speedyguy wrote : There is no need to omit the pre-war clubs. If they were contracted to a bona fide team, then that should count. Steve
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... and Chiswick Nomads, Southern Rovers, etc... Thinking about how deep we are getting in, you're right. This did start out as appearances in OFFICIAL fixtures, in which case non-league teams would be ruled out. Sorry Wal, looks as if Motherwell doesn't count... Forgotten about dear old Stan! Steve
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I am working on the assumption that he did. Not at all. We've had other situations where clubs have been "resurrected" in this fashion, and I wouldn't count them either. However, teams like Motherwell, Buxton (a few years ago), and Castleford should be counted, unless it was a guest appearance. Just thinking (and I thought it best to edit this than delete, seeing as someone may have picked up on this already), we should be counting OFFICIAL fixtures (see post below). Therefore Motherwell, Buxton, and Castleford DON'T count. Steve
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I do get your point about Bradford, and I will try and get some more information. However, to use the Lynn teams to try and validate your point here is way off. Sure, they rode at the same track, but they were two VERY DIFFERENT teams, racing in DIFFERENT LEAGUES at the SAME TIME. That is why they are separate. So, you don't think that Briggo or Ronnie Moore simply rode for Wimbledon? Or that Billy Sanders just rode for Ipswich? Steve
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This is where it can start getting silly. As far as I'm concerned, Wimbledon was Wimbledon, pre-war, post-war or whatever. Belle Vue was ALWAYS Belle Vue (Hyde Road or Kirky Lane). Cradley was Cradley, whether they used Heath or United. Just because someone had two or three spells with a club under different promotions/contracts/whatever, doesn't necessarily mean that they should be classed as separate tracks. That would mean Gordon Kennett rode for several more tracks, even though they were mostly Eastbourne, with another Wimbledon thrown in! I'd like to hear what others have to say... Steve
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Absolutely! Unfortunately, I don't have the book. Steve
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Thanks, I'll update that now. As we said, the reserve teams etc were a separate entity, and the junior teams (King's Lynn II, Belle Vue Colts) and Conference League sides should be treated exactly the same. Steve
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According to star ghost, he rode for Bristol in 1936. Before my time, I'm afraid... Steve
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When I received further information about George Major, that's why I chose to include Norwich for him. Also (I don't know how nobody noticed), I inadvertantly left Bristol off of Wal Morton's tracks. That has been rectified, and now Wal proudly joins Moggo at the top of the list! Thanks for the Nigel Sparshott amendment; don't know how that one slipped by me... Steve PS We'll give "our Wal" an honourable mention for appearing for an Irish team!
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I know exactly what you are saying! It is definitely neither of them, and although Andreasen was my first guess, judging by photos I've seen of him, that's not him either! What we are possibly looking for is someone who didn't actually appear for Oxford in an official fixture... Steve
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I agree with you, Tony; it certainly doesn't look like John Poyser, but neither is it Colin Clark! Just compare that pic with the one you have of Colin in the Crayford gallery... Steve
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My greatest memory was being there for Christer Lofqvist's debut, scoring 7 points against tmy beloved Dons... Steve
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Dave hasn't been actively involved in speedway for several years now, His last real involvement was as announcer at Wimbledon when his son Russell was promoter at Wimbledon in the late 1980's. He's enjoying life in semi-retirement down in Dorset, but occasionally works for Sky TV as a commentator, most notably for darts. Steve
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Hackney 68-1, and possibly 68-5 also, look like Des Lukehurst Middlesbrough unk. v Reading 68-1 is Terry Lee Middlesbrough unk. v Spittles 68-1 is Terry Lee Rayleigh unk. 68-1 is Dingle Brown Steve
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Little typo there - should read 68-3 and 68-4. Steve
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Okay Tony, after just a quick butcher's, we have... Berwick 68-1 Roy Williams Glasgow 68-1 Jim McMillan Hackney unk's 68-1 Colin Pratt inside Malcolm Brown King's Lynn 68-1 What he's doing, I don't know, but it's John Bishop Newport 68-1 Terry Shearer Newport 68-2 Jon Erskine Newport unk. at Oxford 68-1 Jon Erskine Newport unk. leading Nigel Boocock at Coventry 68-1 That man Erskine again Newport unk. v Oxford unk. 68-1 Jon Erskine and Rick Timmo Oxford unk. 68-3 looks like Eddie Reeves Oxford unk. 72-1 Rick Timmo Poole unk. with Trevor Hedge is Geoff Mudge Poole unk. 72-1 is Brian Collins leading Tom Leadbitter and Frank Shuter (what BobC said above) Swindon unk. 68-1 is none other than Briggo! West Ham unk's v Newport unk's is (from the inside) Jon Erskine, unknown, Norman Strachan, Ken McKinlay Wolves unk. outside Hasse Holmqvist is the redoubtable Jim Airey Steve
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Don't know if any of you know about this, but there is a pretty cool nostalgia website dealing largely with Poole and Southampton. I've submitted quite a few pics, and I've heard that there are plenty more coming. It's www.classicspeedway.co.uk Steve
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Exactly right. Anyway, Mark Loram was born in Malta, be we don't say he's Maltese. Steve
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Thanks for the mention, Bobbath, although Cahokia is spelled with a 'C'! I do have to admit that Newport was one track I never ever managed to get to, but he story I remember most was when Simmo refused to ride at Somerton Park for one of his Grand Prix qualifiers in 1976. I do have some fond memories of great riders though, like Torbjorn Harrysson, Sandor Levai, and of course my dear departed old friend, Jim Tebby. Steve