Grachan

Ah really? Me too.

My touchscreen typing may well be a bit rubbish, but it's better than your maths.

You only play for the tactical if you've got something to gain from it. Can't believe anyone would thing that might have been deliberate.

Why would anyone have that thought? They would lose out by doing it.

Poland would be a point up if they won that heat. That is better than being 6 down.

What's that got to do with it? My guess would be because Bjerre was an idiot. He had nothing to lose by letting Harris past. He'd have got a bonus point. Why? Because they are on the same team. Well, they are today anyway.

Complain about modern day speedway if you like, but try to keep the arguments real. Team riding is not throwing a race in a team competition.

I don't like the double points rule, but your argument about throwing races doesn't add up. They are on the same team.

Was Lambert clutching his goolies then after that crash?

You must have hated the old days when more riders used to team ride.

I think the TR had a more dramatic effect on crowd levels than a lot of people believe. I definitely noticed a visible drop in attendance from the start of the year it was introduced.

True. Normally after heat 6.

1 - The problem here is a lack of riders. One old style league of 18 teams would pretty much use up all the riders who race here at the moment. 2 - Not good for me. I always thought the Danish league seemed poor for that very reason. 3 - So we'd have matches cancelled for teams being unable to put together a side. That would cause forum meltdown!! 4 - Restrict the leagues they can ride in, and guess which one they'll opt out of. I don't know what the solution is, really, with so many guests. One would be to sort out the fixture list to minimise absences for riders in more than one team. Maybe use R/R more often for lower members of the side.

Fine for Speedway Mail match reviews. Not so great for team building.

Whatever Havelock's real reasons, his safety stance was vindicated when Chris Holder slid across the track on the first corner and there were no Coventry riders there to get injured.

If they knew from the weather forecast that the meeting would be abandoned, why did they go?

So do you propose going back to the old 6 heats rule that we had in the good old days? We had the same problems then but it wasn't down to Sky. In the good old days 6 heats were regularly forced through and then everyone sent home with no refund. I don't think the rule itself is the problem, it's the way it's applied. Last night should have been called off around heat 8.

It looks like there's nobody there at all!

Well that's not a system open to abuse is it??!!

Troy Bachelor had the same problem last week.

Don't be so sure. I had someone on Speedway Friends claiming that the old BL2 in 1980 was stronger than the current EL. This is because not only did they have loads of riders with averages over 9.00 but they also managed to do it from 13 heats instead of 15.

How to make simple maths seem complicated!! Funny thing is I was discussing this on the dreaded 'Speedway Friends' yesterday. I wonder if the two are linked in any way.

Quite right. It's amazing how many people seem to struggle to get their head round this apparently simple fact. Averages are the average per ride x 4. Heat 15 gives 2 riders 5 rides, but their average is the average for every 4 rides. It's not a straight case of points scored divided by number of meetings.

Does that include you?

Indeed. In fact this can be a problem at Swindon sometimes, with the sun getting low over bends 3 and 4 at certain times of the year. Even on Tuesday they announced that they were going to wait a couple of minutes as the sun was just setting and making it difficult to see. It never caused a major delay, but I have known meetings in the past where they've had to wait for the sun to disappear.