uk_martin

Look at the post above you and you will see that concessionary admission is regarded as one of the 5 pillars of the sport.

With all the concessionary admissions for kids and pensioners the average "take" is about £8 per person. £1.60 of that belongs the the Chancellor leaving just £6.40 to pay the bills with. How much lower do you want it to go?

BSF should put a permanent hyperlink to the SCB rule book in the footer of every post on here.

Hands up anyone who's surprised? Keep your hands up whilst I count...

That's the problem. The 5yo pays no admission and the 95yo gets in on a concession. The promoters aren't getting the income that they need to take things further. I'm told that at some venues over 70% of the revenue is "concessionary". People talk about speedway being only worth £10 in admission value, well at some places thats more than the average take per head. We need to move away from being family friendly and move to an audience that you can concentrate your efforts on. Focus on "Club 18-35" if you like. At least they will be full fare payers, with disposable income to spend on other things. Make the whole experience youth-friendly and you may succeed in getting a new audience. If that sounds harsh on the oldies, well I'm sorry, but sometimes you have to crack some eggs to make an omlette. Right now the sport has as much life left in it as have the pensioners watching it. For there to be a long term future, the youth of today need to be attracted in.

True. So you did. Was that because you knew or was it a good guess in the context of the guessing game that was going on in previous pages?

When Brandon Stadium was being taken apart, there were witnesses, videos and photos of what was going on all over t'internet. Has anyone borne witness to the damage caused being repaired yet? Will photos of the newly renovated stadium feature on all varieties of social media again?

It's the 5th of December today...and we know more about tomorrow being St Nicholas day than we do about a date for the AGM. Incredible.

Nor should you. The fans played no part in it. It's the good grace of Tony Mole and Graham Drury that the Cradley fans owe a debt of gratitude to. Although I doubt if they will be holding their breaths either. Well that kind of depends on how long Birmingham decides that it wants to be promoted for doesn't it? Nothing at all guaranteed beyond 2017.

An article on the sportowyfakty site suggests that the fixtures may be announced before Christmas.

£5 per meeting perhaps? Bear in mind that the head honcho of the BSPA will have to fine himself this time too.

Wouldn't surprise me. I've been at the ticket queue at Birmingham on many occasions when I (as an over 50y.o.) was the only full fare payer.

I've seen them on sale before the end of the previous season in the past. On the basis that we have to wait for the AGM though, this could end up taking forever, and it could miss the Xmas present sales opportunity. Oh, well...

And so the Brummies thread morphs into a Cradley thread. Oh well, who cares?

Have any NL Teams put their season tickets on sale yet? Would anyone like to be able to buy one for someone as an Xmas present? What are the prices for season tickets expected to be around the country? Does your club's season ticket include or exclude KOCup and post-season play-off meetings?

And on another thread, people are hoping that Leigh Lanham could join the ranks of the bright young things in the National League.

Adam Ellis isn't that old though. It's the Armstrongs and Atkins that I struggle with. The NL should be for the youngsters on the upward path of the learning curve so that there can be a wealth of British talent in the higher leagues and in Team GB. Someone should run a seniors circus separately for the golden oldies.

So it's an idea...maybe it sparks a better idea in someone else's head...but at least it's more than just the usual "something should be done" statement. If you don't like the idea then come up with a better one. Eventually, by brainstorming a few ideas instead of just moaning about them something workable could come out of it. Quite right..where's Arthur Browning's phone number?

It's breath holding time, as developments at other teams (Belle Vue) may well shape a good proportion of the Brummies team. I can remember how back in the winter of 2009-2010 Drury had a plan that went to the birds when Steve Johnson became available, and then with Jonno signed up his revised plans went for a ball of chalk again when Aaron Summers was surprisingly made available (or maybe it was the other way around, memory and old age and all that) so whatever plan is on the table now may well head into the same recycle bin if news from Manchester is bad, and the likes of Kyle Bickley and Joe Lawlor suddenly become available.

Quite right. How about some kind of weighting on the averages, so that a rider gets a 10% "discount" on his average for every year that they are under 20 and a 5% premium for every year that they are over 21? Thus a 16 year old rider with a 6.00 average is discounted by 40% (= average of 3.6 for team building purposes) whereas a 28 year old rider with a 6.00 average would be loaded by 35% (= 8.10 for team building purposes) And if the"oldies" don't like it, then they can look for a bargain basement place in the Championship with the other big boys. The NL needs to move away from being a retirement home for the under achievers, and focus on being a nurturing ground for the young and aspirational.

Now there's a question to ask Gordon and Morton at Belle Vue, isn't it?

With the expanded EL fixture list that Wolves have to comply with, will there be enough spare dates for all of Cradley's meetings to be fitted in at Monmore Green? Will Ladbrokes allow racing now on more than one night, or will Cradley have to stage some of their fixtures at Perry Barr again?

Does anyone remember the Fans Survey that was carried out in the middle of last season? Does anyone remember seeing the results from it? Are those results going to have a bearing on how things shape up for 2017?

I saw "SGB Premiership" mentioned in one of Busters press releases. Maybe there's more to this than meets the eye. Hey, could be it's not just any ol' Premiership any more. Lol

What else, in all honesty, have we all come to expect?