Thanx Norbold-you are still younger than me-just not by as much as I thought!!!.One point- if you saw the 61 PLRC at Harringay-where was the 1960 one held-was that at Harringay also??Anyway despite your letter to SS and N all those years ago, am still glad , as a PL supporter that Charlie won the Internationale in 1965!!!!!The fates conspired against him in the Brit Final at West Ham later that year-he should have qualified for the World Final!!