IainB Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 19 hours ago, springer said: Hi IAM sonnys dad ..the reason for sonny retiring is due to a lot off hard work taking it's toll on our family and it stopped being fun for all of us. I was starting work at 5 am getting home at 1900 and working on bikes most nights .until.2300 ..I was lucky that I have a good mechanic for sonny robin cousins who I pay as I have to work shifts as IAM a tanker driver on shell . We also was very lucky we had great engines GODDENS which sonny and Gary drake developed together which paid off .even no we have lots off great sponsors we are down 6000 pounds in costs to us.sonny has only made up to now 1200 pounds we no what most riders get in championship etc .I was told by a good friend that he got 35 per point in national league 10 plus years ago plus tyres and methanol .now we get 15 pounds no tyres no oil no methanol...this is down to the BSPL in my opinion they are killing the sport .I no off 7 other young riders that are going to quit the sport this year .we never expected to make money until he was good enough but didn't expect it to cost me more then riding in youth .I no off some riders dads spending 60000 plus a year to make 3000 ...this has turned into the sport I retired from Motorcross which has ended the same I wish everyone in the sport all the best and it was great once be a part off it but for team springer it's not sustainable.. Thanks for reply, that gives a great insight and is a real eye opener. All the best to Sonny and yourself in whatever you choose to do next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent10 Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 19 hours ago, springer said: Hi IAM sonnys dad ..the reason for sonny retiring is due to a lot off hard work taking it's toll on our family and it stopped being fun for all of us. I was starting work at 5 am getting home at 1900 and working on bikes most nights .until.2300 ..I was lucky that I have a good mechanic for sonny robin cousins who I pay as I have to work shifts as IAM a tanker driver on shell . We also was very lucky we had great engines GODDENS which sonny and Gary drake developed together which paid off .even no we have lots off great sponsors we are down 6000 pounds in costs to us.sonny has only made up to now 1200 pounds we no what most riders get in championship etc .I was told by a good friend that he got 35 per point in national league 10 plus years ago plus tyres and methanol .now we get 15 pounds no tyres no oil no methanol...this is down to the BSPL in my opinion they are killing the sport .I no off 7 other young riders that are going to quit the sport this year .we never expected to make money until he was good enough but didn't expect it to cost me more then riding in youth .I no off some riders dads spending 60000 plus a year to make 3000 ...this has turned into the sport I retired from Motorcross which has ended the same I wish everyone in the sport all the best and it was great once be a part off it but for team springer it's not sustainable.. Afternoon John it’s Billy’s dad, absolutely gutted for you guys especially sonny, I remember us all having dinner together in Edinburgh couple of years back after a youth meeting and we all said at the time about the costs of the game and we all said then it would kill it, it’s all well certain individuals spending whatever they want and good luck to them, however we said who the hell are they going to race against if they price out the majority!! I don’t know how much I spend and have spent and I really don’t want to know and we like you are at the same end of the ladder (or was), but if we can’t afford it next year we know that is it, I like you will certainly not bankrupt us for speedway. Sending you all best wishes 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (edited) On 7/6/2025 at 9:08 AM, HGould said: The Speedway Star on Thursday (web edition) in NDL section definitely reported as part of Springer article that Ashton Vale had also indicated he'd retired. Don't shoot the messenger 😁 Obviously it will be great if he hasn't retired. I can confirm I do know my Boughen's from my Vale's though...not quite that senile...yet! Apologies, I just presumed it was a case of mistaken Ashtons. No idea where the Speedway Star got that information from - maybe they mistook them instead? Edited July 10 by Bojangles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 4 hours ago, Bojangles said: Apologies, I just presumed it was a case of mistaken Ashtons. No idea where the Speedway Star got that information from - maybe they mistook them instead? vale isnt riding for lynn young stars because he indicated he was packing it in on the afternoon of their last home meeting (25th june) thats probably why the story surfaced he clearly hasnt retired but isnt riding for lynn either so no idea whats going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springer Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 On 7/9/2025 at 4:11 PM, Sargent10 said: Afternoon John it’s Billy’s dad, absolutely gutted for you guys especially sonny, I remember us all having dinner together in Edinburgh couple of years back after a youth meeting and we all said at the time about the costs of the game and we all said then it would kill it, it’s all well certain individuals spending whatever they want and good luck to them, however we said who the hell are they going to race against if they price out the majority!! I don’t know how much I spend and have spent and I really don’t want to know and we like you are at the same end of the ladder (or was), but if we can’t afford it next year we know that is it, I like you will certainly not bankrupt us for speedway. Sending you all best wishes 👍 Thank you Mr Budd and it was a great time mate we are now back into trials mate . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springer Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 On 7/9/2025 at 3:59 PM, IainB said: Thanks for reply, that gives a great insight and is a real eye opener. All the best to Sonny and yourself in whatever you choose to do next. Thank you sonny has gone back to trials 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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