Daniel Smith Posted Monday at 08:37 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:37 PM In tonight's fixture between King's Lynn - Sheffield, Nicolai Klindt had already completed 7 rides coming up to his programmed heat 14. I can't see anything in the regulations but, can / should you be allowed to use a Tactical Substitute on a reserve switch?? It makes no sense to allow that loop hole imo?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted Monday at 10:39 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 10:39 PM Not sure what problem you think you're seeing. Klindt was at reserve, and as such, he can come in as a reserve switch at any time (except the protected heat 8) up to a maximum of 7 rides. Klindt took reserve rides and had his maximum of 7 rides. It was Kvech who took the Tactical Substitute ride. This is permissible as long as the team are 6 or more points in arrears. They were 8 behind at the time so no problem there either. No rules broken, no loopholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted Monday at 11:07 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 11:07 PM 14 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: Not sure what problem you think you're seeing. Klindt was at reserve, and as such, he can come in as a reserve switch at any time (except the protected heat 8) up to a maximum of 7 rides. Klindt took reserve rides and had his maximum of 7 rides. It was Kvech who took the Tactical Substitute ride. This is permissible as long as the team are 6 or more points in arrears. They were 8 behind at the time so no problem there either. No rules broken, no loopholes. Maybe I didn't explain myself clearly. I don't see any rules broken, it's more of a question. Klindt couldn't have taken his ride in heat 14 because he'd already done 7 rides. Heat 14 would have been Boughen as reserve switch or 3 riders only. My question is; should you be allowed a Tactical Substitute for a Reserve Switch / blank gate. In my opinion, a Tactical Substitute should only be allowed on a rider's programmed ride if they're eligible to participate. Klindt wasn't eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted Monday at 11:18 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:18 PM Sorry, you're still making no sense. Klindt legally took 7 rides. He was reserve, and could come in for reserve switch rides at any time (except the protected heat 8) to a maximum of 7 rides Kvech, legally took a Tac Sub ride. He could come into any heat at Tac Sub (except a protected ride) provided the team were 6 points or more behind at the time. All was perfectly eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterfieldTiger Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago On 5/20/2025 at 12:07 AM, Daniel Smith said: Maybe I didn't explain myself clearly. I don't see any rules broken, it's more of a question. Klindt couldn't have taken his ride in heat 14 because he'd already done 7 rides. Heat 14 would have been Boughen as reserve switch or 3 riders only. My question is; should you be allowed a Tactical Substitute for a Reserve Switch / blank gate. In my opinion, a Tactical Substitute should only be allowed on a rider's programmed ride if they're eligible to participate. Klindt wasn't eligible. I see where you're coming from. The way I see it is that Klindt had to be replaced for that heat while they were 8 behind, leaving 2 options. 1 - A reserve sub to put in Boughen or 2 - A tactical sub. At that point the best option was to go with a tactical substitution and put in Kvech, which is allowed in the rules. I think the 'loophole' that you're suggesting adds to risk in decision making. Had King's Lynn got to heat 14 and been less than 6 points behind or maybe with a small lead, they would have had to make a reserve sub and put in a rider who was weaker on the night, potentially losing them the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted 14 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 hours ago, ChesterfieldTiger said: I see where you're coming from. The way I see it is that Klindt had to be replaced for that heat while they were 8 behind, leaving 2 options. 1 - A reserve sub to put in Boughen or 2 - A tactical sub. At that point the best option was to go with a tactical substitution and put in Kvech, which is allowed in the rules. I think the 'loophole' that you're suggesting adds to risk in decision making. Had King's Lynn got to heat 14 and been less than 6 points behind or maybe with a small lead, they would have had to make a reserve sub and put in a rider who was weaker on the night, potentially losing them the meeting. It might just be me, but all I'm saying is, that once a rider has completed a maximum quota of rides a Tactical Substitute shouldn't be allowed on any of said riders remaining programmed ride. If a reserve is getting 7 rides, in the main it means you're getting an advantage from their scoring prowess. Getting to use a Tactical Substitute on a remaining programmed ride that they can't participate in, It's almost the equivalent to 2 Tactical Substitutes a meeting. That's what I mean by loophole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago A rider is only allowed to take a maximum of 7 rides. The ht 14 where the rider is progammed can be filled by the reserve or by the facility of TS if the team is the required points in arrears. I can't see any issues or rules broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Tac subs shouldn't be allowed for the home team anyway IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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