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Belle Vue v Birmingham Monday 7th July PL2


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29 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Birmingham poor tonight (again)

Always laughing stock TDM.It's been like it for years(since Tony Mole retired,and the clowns took overπŸ™„),hence most of folk just giving it all up!It's so bloody sadπŸ˜’

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1 hour ago, Col said:

Just noticed the video screen from the GP is still here.

It's belle vues screen it's permanent.Β Β 

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2 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

no ,i could smell bullrubbish.

No. Deffo had the problems. Smell was clear as day. In his first retirement did you not see all the sparks flying out of the bike when it packed up??

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22 minutes ago, Rob B said:

Clutch issues, couldn’t you smell it burning?

Yes kept saying to the Mrs someone is burning clutches out, strange decision to put him out in 15 unless he wanted to know if he fixed the problem, of which he hadn’tΒ 

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1 hour ago, gjcone44 said:

Zagar couldn't be bothered last couple of races.Β 

Already covered, had mechanical issues on third ride... certainly gave Bewley something to chase in heat 4 & kept Kurtz honest for two laps in heat 6.Β 

Musielak versus Cook in heat 15 was the best race, other than Bewley & Zagar.Β  Heat 14 was decent too but so predictably one sides... Aces problem is obvious, the reserves will cost them the title this year.Β  Hopefully Leicester will give the Aces more trouble next week.

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11 minutes ago, Robinh88 said:

Birmingham wouldn't win the Championship with their current seven. Embarrassing just like their track preparation and leader Tolley. Please Nigel do not invest in another club.

If he does invest and bring another of the set up with him they'd be driving folk away from attending speedway permanently no matter how long you'd been watching it.Completely clueless!!

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8 minutes ago, Robinh88 said:

Birmingham wouldn't win the Championship with their current seven. Embarrassing just like their track preparation and leader Tolley. Please Nigel do not invest in another club.

And yet they beat belle vue and went to Leicester and won but for an injury to Edward’s may of won at kings Lynn and how many times have you attended Perry Barr this year to give your expert analysis on the track preparation and how they could do it better ?Β 

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12 minutes ago, Robinh88 said:

Birmingham wouldn't win the Championship with their current seven. Embarrassing just like their track preparation and leader Tolley. Please Nigel do not invest in another club.

I do feel comments like this are daft, no matter how bad a Prem team is, they're still stronger than the best Champ team.

This Birmingham team still has a chance to avoid the Wooden Spoon (as Oxford keep losing too).

But out of interest I looked at the stats. Birmingham in the Champ would be 51.37. Highest Champ team is currently Scunthorpe on 42.54.

Of course that using a lot of assessed averages, looking at Poole's Prem averages that would come to 29.56, below Birmingham's 31.90.

The top Champ side against the bottom Prem side would probably be a lot closer this year, but still a win for the Prem team.

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15 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

And yet they beat belle vue and went to Leicester and won but for an injury to Edward’s may of won at kings Lynn and how many times have you attended Perry Barr this year to give your expert analysis on the track preparation and how they could do it better ?Β 

Are you content with track preparation or lack of at Birmingham. You used to get great racing not anymore. The riders aren't happy either but I guess that counts for nothing?

They beat BV minus Kurtz so that's a none starter. Leicester rode very well both times I admit. Just sad to see the state of them really in their final season.

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9 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

I do feel comments like this are daft, no matter how bad a Prem team is, they're still stronger than the best Champ team.

This Birmingham team still has a chance to avoid the Wooden Spoon (as Oxford keep losing too).

But out of interest I looked at the stats. Birmingham in the Champ would be 51.37. Highest Champ team is currently Scunthorpe on 42.54.

Of course that using a lot of assessed averages, looking at Poole's Prem averages that would come to 29.56, below Birmingham's 31.90.

The top Champ side against the bottom Prem side would probably be a lot closer this year, but still a win for the Prem team.

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I don't think that seven tonight would win the championship imo. I know you love your stats however I will go with what I saw so if you don't agree that is totally fine by me.

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5 minutes ago, Robinh88 said:

Are you content with track preparation or lack of at Birmingham. You used to get great racing not anymore. The riders aren't happy either but I guess that counts for nothing?

They beat BV minus Kurtz so that's a none starter. Leicester rode very well both times I admit. Just sad to see the state of them really in their final season.

I think the track at Brum has always been shocking. Speaking as someone who marshalled there for 5 seasons it was always bare really early.Β 

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7 hours ago, Robinh88 said:

Are you content with track preparation or lack of at Birmingham. You used to get great racing not anymore. The riders aren't happy either but I guess that counts for nothing?

They beat BV minus Kurtz so that's a none starter. Leicester rode very well both times I admit. Just sad to see the state of them really in their final season.

Also beat BV because Bewley was 'sent' thru the tapes in Heat 15

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