build a team including costs per rider, including travel.

[gjcone44]

A few people on here putting together teams from their averages, for next season, but would be interesting to see what they thought each rider would cost + travel for that team. forget all other costs of running team, just purely riders wages. would it add up ???

[Fortythirtyeight]

41 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

A few people on here putting together teams from their averages, for next season, but would be interesting to see what they thought each rider would cost + travel for that team. forget all other costs of running team, just purely riders wages. would it add up ???

Whilst I have insider knowledge , due to being a sponsor ,no one could tell you accurately EVER rider deal as it’s different for each rider at each club, from £10 a point and 20p a mile in the NDL to Premiership thousands pounds guarantees and flights.

Then add in sponsorship deals, bonuses, signing on fees , mechanics, accommodation which some clubs , the ‘top’ teams, can add into a deal.

A rider I sponsor who doubles up in the top two leagues is on a guarantee in the Premiership, a partial guarantee in the championship with points money to top that up so….

Now stand back and wait for others ‘ GUESTIMATES’….

[gjcone44]

its just with people throwing riders here there and everywhere, and not knowing the costs involved, gate receipts don not cover it and they are going to be less next season.

[TTT]

36.00 Limit for 6 Riders.

 

Powerhouse Club like Belle Vue with Money to spend.

1. D. Bewley 8.64

2. P-H. Bangs 5.00

3. B. Cook 6.39

4. Z. Cook 6.20

5. M. Zagar 6.46

6. T. Zischke 3.00

7. J. Mulford (RS)

= 35.69

 

Budget 1-7 mostly featuring British based riders for a Club like Northampton who will run at Oxford.

1. K. Huckenbeck 7.00

2. D. Kemp 4.94

3. E. Riss 6.46

4. C. Wright 6.07

5. R. Lawson 6.82

6. P. Castagna 4.13

7. J. Scott (RS)

= 35.42

Edited Tuesday at 05:00 PM by TTT

[Fortythirtyeight]

34 minutes ago, TTT said:

36.00 Limit for 6 Riders.

 

Powerhouse Club like Belle Vue with Money to spend.

1. D. Bewley 8.64

2. P-H. Bangs 5.00

3. B. Cook 6.39

4. Z. Cook 6.20

5. M. Zagar 6.46

6. T. Zischke 3.00

7. J. Mulford (RS)

= 35.69

 

Budget 1-7 mostly featuring British based riders for a Club like Northampton who will run at Oxford.

1. K. Huckenbeck 7.00

2. D. Kemp 4.94

3. E. Riss 6.46

4. C. Wright 6.07

5. R. Lawson 6.82

6. P. Castagna 4.13

7. J. Scott (RS)

= 35.42

and your ‘costs’ are……?

[Fortythirtyeight]

52 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

its just with people throwing riders here there and everywhere, and not knowing the costs involved, gate receipts don not cover it and they are going to be less next season.

Agreed, only 4 clubs that I know of can cover the wage bill from income through the turnstiles to include bar & Food takings, and one of them admits it’s been a struggle at times to do that in 2025 because they were successful and therefore had a bigger wage bill than previous years.

[TTT]

1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

and your ‘costs’ are……?

Impossible for me to know what riders earn what wage.

But British based Championship Heat Leaders would surely be the target for Promoters who'd want to save money on Travel costs for EU based riders.

[gjcone44]

been some poor crowds at Bellevue this year, dont think some gate receipts covered their costs, only sponsorship been helping the aces out this year i recon.

[Fortythirtyeight]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

Impossible for me to know what riders earn what wage.

But British based Championship Heat Leaders would surely be the target for Promoters who'd want to save money on Travel costs for EU based riders.

Not necessarily so.

You can get a cheap flight for under £50 but if you have a UK based rider in the north having to travel to Plymouth then you might end up paying him more.

[YeOldPitGate]

1 hour ago, gjcone44 said:

been some poor crowds at Bellevue this year, dont think some gate receipts covered their costs, only sponsorship been helping the aces out this year i recon.

If true adds to the dark picture best track in the UK and two of the best riders in the world plying their craft there.

[gjcone44]

59 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Not necessarily so.

You can get a cheap flight for under £50 but if you have a UK based rider in the north having to travel to Plymouth then you might end up paying him more.

i paid £54 to fly to turkey, cost me £50 to get taxi back home from Manchester airport no more than 10 miles. mental 

[gjcone44]

39 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said:

If true adds to the dark picture best track in the UK and two of the best riders in the world plying their craft there.

i probably missed 2 meetings all season this year. because on holiday, do love watching the racing there, but will be cutting back next year. sorry to say. 

[ouch]

On 11/4/2025 at 5:00 PM, TTT said:

36.00 Limit for 6 Riders.

 

Powerhouse Club like Belle Vue with Money to spend.

1. D. Bewley 8.64

2. P-H. Bangs 5.00

3. B. Cook 6.39

4. Z. Cook 6.20

5. M. Zagar 6.46

6. T. Zischke 3.00

7. J. Mulford (RS)

= 35.69

 

Budget 1-7 mostly featuring British based riders for a Club like Northampton who will run at Oxford.

1. K. Huckenbeck 7.00

2. D. Kemp 4.94

3. E. Riss 6.46

4. C. Wright 6.07

5. R. Lawson 6.82

6. P. Castagna 4.13

7. J. Scott (RS)

= 35.42

Five of those riders in The Aces team are British based, as is Brady. 

[ouch]

On 11/4/2025 at 5:00 PM, TTT said:

36.00 Limit for 6 Riders.

 

Powerhouse Club like Belle Vue with Money to spend.

1. D. Bewley 8.64

2. P-H. Bangs 5.00

3. B. Cook 6.39

4. Z. Cook 6.20

5. M. Zagar 6.46

6. T. Zischke 3.00

7. J. Mulford (RS)

= 35.69

 

Budget 1-7 mostly featuring British based riders for a Club like Northampton who will run at Oxford.

1. K. Huckenbeck 7.00

2. D. Kemp 4.94

3. E. Riss 6.46

4. C. Wright 6.07

5. R. Lawson 6.82

6. P. Castagna 4.13

7. J. Scott (RS)

= 35.42

Five of those riders in The Aces team are British based, as is Brady.