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  1. MattK

    Customs clearance

    The rules seem unclear (as with most things Brexit) but it does appear as if there will be extra costs associated with taking equipment to the EU. https://www.autosport.com/national/news/154525/motorsport-uk-explains-postbrexit-transport-process
  2. Can you show me where in the study documentation it states only those who had symptoms were tested?
  3. What are you struggling with? No one is going to make that statement. The only reliable statement is the result of the study, which I have quoted numerous times. I'm not sure what it is you're trying to prove here?
  4. "And so it’s possible that a number of people who got vaccinated in the clinical trials got infected, too, without ever realizing it." It is possible. However, it would be a bit remiss of the study to rely on people reporting their own symptoms, don't you think? Which is why antibody tests were carried out at regular intervals: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04380701
  5. What part of the study do I not understand? There is no clear statement, there are the results from the study, which I have linked to above. You can choose to accept those results or not, that is up to you.
  6. That isn't a source, that's just a block of text.
  7. "A total of 43,548 participants underwent randomization, of whom 43,448 received injections: 21,720 with BNT162b2 and 21,728 with placebo. There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose among participants assigned to receive BNT162b2 and 162 cases among those assigned to placebo; BNT162b2 was 95% effective in preventing Covid-19 (95% credible interval, 90.3 to 97.6)" https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577
  8. Do you have a source for that, as the link I provided above suggests otherwise?
  9. I don't like that at all. Firstly, it says virus, when presumable it means disease. The vaccine does not protect against the virus. Alternatively, it is suggesting you may get symptoms of the virus, which is incorrect, as you get symptoms from the disease. You may still pass it on - yes, that appears to be the current thinking. "you should not get the worst symptoms or die, at least in 90% or 95% of cases." Again, technically correct, but I feel that is misleading, unless the other vaccine studies are using a different definition. Overall, I think that is a very poor effort and one of my biggest bugbears throughout this whole thing is the terrible quality of the communications.
  10. 95% of those who receive the vaccine will not get Covid and The vaccine is 95% effective at preventing Covid-19 compared to not receiving the vaccine Are two different things. The study cannot claim that "95% of those who receive the vaccine will not get Covid" because that is not what they were testing for. In order to test for that you'd need to vaccinate a bunch of people and then infect them with SARS-CoV-2 to see the efficacy of the vaccine. Instead, what they did was vaccinate half the study group and give the other half a placebo and then send them out in the big wide world to get infected themselves. This allows for a comparison of the two groups. Of those who got infected 8 people who had received the vaccine developed Covid-19 and there were 162 cases among those assigned to placebo. Therefore, you can equate that the vaccine is 95% effective at preventing the development of Covid. Now, what you're quoting seems to be conflating the study with the wider infection. While the study does not find that "95% of those who receive the vaccine will not get Covid" if you assume not every person will be infected with SARS-CoV-2, then by definition, if the vaccine is 95% effective, then fewer than 95% of the vaccinated population will develop Covid-19. However, I don't like this lazy conflation as it isn't supported by the evidence and therefore leads to confusion and doubt because it can be easily challenged.
  11. That's possible. It is also possible that they tested people at intervals to see if they had Covid-19, rather than just waited for them to report symptoms. Oh look: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04380701
  12. No one says that 95% of those who receive the vaccine will not get Covid. The Pfizer study concluded that the vaccine is 95% effective at preventing Covid-19 compared to people who did not have the vaccine. "A total of 43,548 participants underwent randomization, of whom 43,448 received injections: 21,720 with BNT162b2 and 21,728 with placebo. There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose among participants assigned to receive BNT162b2 and 162 cases among those assigned to placebo; BNT162b2 was 95% effective in preventing Covid-19" https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577
  13. Yes, some people WILL still get Covid-19. The study shows that. However, what the study also shows is that the vaccine is 95% effective at preventing Covid-19 compared to not receiving the vaccine. Are you being deliberately obtuse?
  14. You said: "We all thought the vaccines prevented you getting it but the message was changed to “preventing you getting the worst symptoms and effects”!" The vaccine does prevent you getting it (Covid-19) and is 95% more effective at preventing you from "getting it" than not having the vaccine.
  15. It means what it says. The study showed that "There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose" therefore some vaccinated people will still develop Covid-19, that isn;t disputed. Whether the study showed those people suffered less severe illness I don't know as the study, as far as I can see, doesn't go into that detail. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577
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