Matousek 0 Posted August 1, 2007 Does any1 know where i can hear what was said on this show please?, plant speedway? is that planet speedway?, cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevs 4 Posted August 1, 2007 Matousek http://www.bbc.co.uk/oxford/sport/speedway/ Then under the planet speedway banner hit the grey listen again option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matousek 0 Posted August 1, 2007 Matousek http://www.bbc.co.uk/oxford/sport/speedway/ Then under the planet speedway banner hit the grey listen again option. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thanks nevs ill take a look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted August 2, 2007 But why? Already quality riders are in short supply. Having 16 teams in the top flight will spread the better riders even thinner and will force clubs to do an "Oxford" and desparately scrabble for anything that resembles a heat-leader, regardless of costs and availability. We need to make EL speedway more attractive to stay-away riders and therefore create more competition between riders for team places, rather than the current situation that forces teams to compete, on price, amongst each other for the top riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matousek 0 Posted August 2, 2007 But why? Already quality riders are in short supply. Having 16 teams in the top flight will spread the better riders even thinner and will force clubs to do an "Oxford" and desparately scrabble for anything that resembles a heat-leader, regardless of costs and availability. We need to make EL speedway more attractive to stay-away riders and therefore create more competition between riders for team places, rather than the current situation that forces teams to compete, on price, amongst each other for the top riders. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because likely the leagues will change dramitacally?, also if the thing with riders can only ride in 2 leagues comes in, possibly many top stars may go anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sllimnitram 0 Posted August 24, 2007 I dont understand how last year the elite league was close at the top with the top 7 teams or so all in contention. the rise in the points limit must have messed it up for this year but something drastic needs to happen in british speedway but its almost impossible to find a solution to suit everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekker 239 Posted August 24, 2007 On plant speedway there were talks of only having 2 leagues next year with the wealthier PL clubs joining the EL.IWBIWISI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rabbit 1 Posted August 24, 2007 IWBIWISI <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exsqueeze me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikko 181 Posted August 25, 2007 Exsqueeze me <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IWBIWISI I Will Believe It When I See It Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted August 26, 2007 On plant speedway there were talks of only having 2 leagues next year with the wealthier PL clubs joining the EL. I think this would work if they also did the following…. 1.Only let riders ride in two countries, so there would be less use of rider replacement and guests. 2.Reduce the points limit in both leagues, so teams would be more even. 3.Set the admission prices for all clubs in the EL to £12 adults and PL to £10 adults. The leagues would probably look like this. Elite league 1. Poole 2. Coventry 3. Belle Vue 4. Arena Essex 5. Eastbourne 6. Ipswich 7. Wolverhampton 8. Peterborough 9. Reading 10. Swindon 11. Birmingham 12. Kings Lynn 13. Oxford 14. Sheffield 15. Stoke Wealthy . . !!! 16. Rye House Premier League 1. Workington Tony Mole 2. Glasgow 3. Edinburgh 4. Berwick 5. Newcastle 6. Redcar 7. Mildenhall 8. Somerset 9. Sittingbourne 10. Plymouth 11. Scunthorpe 12. Weymouth 13. Newport 14. Isle of Wight 15. Buxton 16. Exeter <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How can Redcar be in a different league to Wolves if its done on wealth when they have the same owner ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekker 239 Posted August 26, 2007 That div 2 would never work, its split almost into north and south with div 1 mostly midlands based teams. Would hate to see the touring bills from div 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25yearfan 476 Posted August 26, 2007 No way ever should the CL be sacrificed cause the EL is struggling! CL has been one of the best innovations ever in speedway - so it should stay in its present state! Anyway look at the situation realistically - Sittingbourne and Buxton couldn't afford to go into a more expensive league cause they struggle to keep afloat at their present CL level. If they were forced to move inot a higher level then their only alternative would be to cease with League racing. Exeter aren't running next year do to planning difficulties. Theirs no guarantee that Oxford will revert to higher league next year anyway. What should happen - The EL should be joined by 4 PL teams making the numbers up to 14. One home and one away in the league, play offs, kO cup, bring back the internationals, bring two foriegn clubs over to ride challenge matchs at 14 EL tracks at the start of the season to give them another fixture. 6 man teams with 2 of the team British. The PL would lose 4 tracks but hopefully Scunthorpe, Plymouth and Oxford could be persuaded to move up from the CL to increase numbers, with any other new track reopening or moving up from the CL having to go into the PL. In a few years the PL could be bolstered by the return of Cradley, Leicester, Exeter Hull ETc. 3 riders out of every PL team must be British. But please the CL as it is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rabbit 1 Posted August 26, 2007 IWBIWISI I Will Believe It When I See It <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aha, cheers, that's one that's passed me by. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matousek 0 Posted August 26, 2007 well i hope they make the leagues better next season, ive personally not enjoyed 2007 as much as 2006. Roll on bspa conference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted August 27, 2007 Elite League - POINTS LIMIT 37.50 1. Poole 2. Coventry 3. Belle Vue 4. Arena Essex 5. Eastbourne 6. Ipswich 7. Wolverhampton 8. Peterborough 9. Reading 10. Swindon 11. Birmingham 12. Kings Lynn 13. Rye House 14. Sheffield Premier League - POINTS LIMIT 37.50 1. Workington 2. Glasgow 3. Edinburgh 4. Berwick 5. Newcastle 6. Redcar 7. Mildenhall 8. Somerset 9. Sittingbourne 10. Plymouth 11. Scunthorpe 12. Weymouth 13. Newport 14. Isle of Wight 15. Buxton 16. Exeter 17. Stoke 18. Oxford Going from the list already posted by the original poster, I would think these would work more with teams like Buxton, Sittingbourne and Plymouth helped out with a few loan signings. Why you say a 37.50 limit in the EL ? Wolves 1 - Fredrik Lindgren 8.00 2 - Tai Woffiden 4.50 3 - David Howe 7.25 4 - Adam Skornicki 4.50 5 - Mikael Max 6.33 6 - Will Lawson 3.75 7 - Magnus Karlsson 4.10 Thats Why Share this post Link to post Share on other sites