Arthur54 1,302 Posted February 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Gavan said: Harris beat Kurtz 5 times out of 7 races last season so yes maybe will be the better of the 2 but no foregone conclusion that he will beat Harris on either track Barker beat Kurtz everytime as well so i cant see why Ben wouldnt do better in match races v Woryna And in match ups i would expect Robson to easily outscore MS Although i would expect Woryna, Kurtz and MS to have higher final averages than those you have matched them up against would expect in head to heads it would be much closer. I would say Rye and Wolves , although with weaker teams than Poole, will be harder sides for Poole to beat over 2 legs than say Belle Vue ah but is Kurtz better than Morris 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted February 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said: ah but is Kurtz better than Morris Only in Shovlers dreams 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Gavan said: Harris beat Kurtz 5 times out of 7 races last season so yes maybe will be the better of the 2 but no foregone conclusion that he will beat Harris on either track Barker beat Kurtz everytime as well so i cant see why Ben wouldnt do better in match races v Woryna And in match ups i would expect Robson to easily outscore MS Although i would expect Woryna, Kurtz and MS to have higher final averages than those you have matched them up against would expect in head to heads it would be much closer. I would say Rye and Wolves , although with weaker teams than Poole, will be harder sides for Poole to beat over 2 legs than say Belle Vue I am not so much writing about them racing each other but over the course of a whole season against all teams. James Shanes beat Thorsell from the back at Poole last season. Doesn’t make him the better rider. Edited February 10, 2018 by Steve Shovlar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,050 Posted February 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: I am not so much writing about them racing each other but over the course of a whole season against all teams. James Shanes beat Thorsell from the back at Poole last season. Doesn’t make him the better rider. Im agreeing with you. Poole have the better team than both Rye House and Wolves. In my opinion only Belle Vue come close to Pooles side. However over 2 legs i think Poole would struggle more against Rye or Wolves then Belle Vue. I think Pooles riders will go better at Belle Vue than the other 2 tracks thats all im saying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,050 Posted February 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said: ah but is Kurtz better than Morris i see you add some meaningful thoughts into the discussion. when you have something decent to say perhaps we can debate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 10, 2018 Yet another illegal team. Do we ever start a season without at least one illegal team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, SCB said: Yet another illegal team. Do we ever start a season without at least one illegal team? Not ratified yet..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted February 10, 2018 Whats illegal about the Rye House team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted February 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Whats illegal about the Rye House team? Clegg somehow being on a 2.00 average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted February 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, Panthers89 said: Clegg somehow being on a 2.00 average. So what should his average be, in your opinion ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, SCB said: Yet another illegal team. Do we ever start a season without at least one illegal team? Which teams that then, i take it you mean Rye, why ? Edited February 10, 2018 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Which teams that then, i take it you mean Rye, why ? Max Cleggs average is not 2.00 as claimed by Rye House. This puts their team over the limit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, SCB said: Max Cleggs average is not 2.00 as claimed by Rye House. This puts their team over the limit. So what is it in your opinion.? Edited February 10, 2018 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted February 10, 2018 Clegg's Championship average was 4.15 divide by 1.3 conversion means his Premiership average should be 3.19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: So what should his average be, in your opinion ? IMO - he shouldn't be on a 2.00 average, that was only from 4 meetings last season for Wolves, so going on that basis, if you are having a shocker of a season, you may aswell tempt some new riders over, and let them reduce the averages for following season. Clegg should be on his previous top league average of 4.15 IMO, where he rode 20 meetings back in 2016. Or if that's not fair, take his Championship average of 4.15 with Edinburgh and convert that into a Premiership average, so 3.19, IF the conversion rate is 1.30 Also, good to see you back on the Forum. Edited February 10, 2018 by Panthers89 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
