Islander15
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Anyone going to this meeting that could text for the updates site, can they contact myself, ldtl27 or Sue please. Many thanks.
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The meeting which was due to be held today has been postponed due to the bad weather on the Isle of Wight. No re staging date announced yet. 2nd leg is at Mildenhall on Sunday.
To be restaged on October 8th.
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Or if we base it on starting averages:
1. Charles Wright 8.53
2. Lewis Rose 3.00
3. Joe Jacobs 7.97
4. Paul Starke 5.70
5. Lewis Blackbird 7.01
6. Adam Ellis 3.00
7. Robert Lambert 3.00
For improvement throughout the season (just the 7 best imo in on order)
1. Max Clegg
2. Lewis Rose
3. Paul Starke
4. Josh Bates
5. Liam Carr
6. Jack Kingston
7. Lewis Kerr
And simply the best 7 (again in no order)
1. Steve Boxall
2. Robert Lambert
3. Adam Ellis
4. Charles Wright
5. Lewis Blackbird
6. Joe Jacobs
7. Lewis Kerr
He might be one of the best riders in the NL but so he should be with an 11.38 starting average. Blackbird started on 7.01, he's now on 10.57. That's why he's in and Boxall isn't.
Blackbird's average is 2 years old though as he didn't do enough meetings to get a new one last year. So you could argue that his is smaller than it should have been as similarly Boxall's is higher than it should have been, as Steve took time out from the sport.
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Can anyone provide heat after heat results?
http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/12808/mildenhall-dudley-nl-8-30pm
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If Isle of Wight take a point it's all over. Buxton need 6 from both meetings to realistically take the play-off spot.
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Dont forget the air fence meeting!
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If it was simply the 16 highest averaged riders, Dudley would have 4 representatives!
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I'm pretty sure he can. I think the average limit is 5.00 now but it's based on a riders current average and I dont think Wright's is that high without looking.
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Looks a very good line up. Never seen Lambert in a competitive race at Rye and will be interesting to see how he goes.
If as in previous years it is a straight 20 heat format, maybe Lambert will have to be on the pace from the off. A top 6 through to race off then final would probably suit him,with more time to suss out the track.
Its straight 20heats.
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1 Dudley 7 5 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 395 244 23
2 Mildenhall 10 4 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 456 449 20
3 King's Lynn 11 4 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 4 498 506 20
4 Coventry 13 2 1 0 3 1 2 0 1 3 586 605 19
5 Isle of Wight 10 4 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 3 490 419 18
6 Buxton 9 2 0 0 1 0 2 0 1 3 420 410 13
7 Kent 10 3 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 5 418 503 9
8 Stoke 8 1 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 4 305 432 3
That is the League Table without Todays meetings, so its still between Kings Kynn, IOW, and Buxton, for 2 0f the last 3 play Off places, of course Mildenhall could still drop to 5th, but highly unlikely, just as its still mathematically possible for Kent to qualify, thats why today I think The Heathens had a few IOW and KL fans hoping they would win today.
King's Lynn should only need to win 1 of their 2 home meetings to make it so the fourth spot is between IOW, Buxton & Coventry for me. Coventry will likely lose at home to Dudley and IOW beat Kent at home. So Buxton need 8 or 9 points (race difference may come into play) at home to IOW, Mildenhall and Stoke. Islanders get anything at Buxton or Kent and it should be over. But anything can happen!
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Ok do you suggest we use two 3point riders for our two 9+ riders. Oh come on gota be competive still aint we
Exactly! People moaned last year when you had to use 3 point riders to cover any absence (bar #1) and they still moan this year when it changes! There's no pleasing some people...
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Is there anyone going to this meeting who would be able to text updates to the Updates site? If so, could you please send me a private message including your mobile number.
Thanks
Still looking for a texter. PM me here or the updates site
Thanks
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Rose for Reade & Chessell R/R for the Potters. Islanders have Hopwood R/R & Boxall for Perry.
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Wow Len Silver managed the Potters as Malcolm Vasey broke down en route and it has to be said he did a fair job.
Where did you read that because Ben Reade seems to think he was manager?
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Buxton give a debut to Lee Smart. Boxall guests for Perry.
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Just seen NL 4's results and is there a most improved rider year to date at NL level than Paul Starke. Last year averaging 5.70 and now with Dudley averaging 10.56 and hitting respectable scores with Berwick at PL level.
Lewis Rose
Lewis Kerr
Liam Carr
Luke Crang
Brandon Freemantle
Max Clegg
To name a few!
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No idea!
If it doesn't though, he'd have an average far higher than 10.07..!!
Yes heat 15 is included. I think you've included the Stoke cup meeting (without checking) his fourth league meeting was against the Islanders and he got 13+1 from 7.
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I see Robert Lambert's average (putting him at number one now) is 10.07...
I was expecting it to be a fair bit higher.. Is there some kind of deduction applied or is that the correct CMA for his matches to date..?
Correct CMA based on his first 4 meetings.
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What on earth are you talking about. Waldron moved to reserve & Hazelden in the main body of the team as of the averages issued on the 18th July. The IOW meeting was Weds 17th July & Buxton before that so I don't understand what's illegal???
His 3.20 is from his first 4 meetings with the fourth being Mildenhall away on July 3rd so his average is effective from July 10th, which is before the Buxton and Isle of Wight meetings! Its just not been recognised on the BSPA site until the 18th.
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Waldron's 3.20 has appeared on the BSPA site so KL did track an illegal team against the Islanders and Buxton. I'm not accusing anyone of why btw.
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My understanding of the way NL averages are calculated is the same as Jayne's.
Islander15 - Rule 17.5 refers to an 'established MA' being issued - that is a transition from an assessed average - rather than after every rider's 4th meeting
If you interpret it that way then how do you explain other riders being given an average after 4 meetings (take Coventry as an example, none of Branford, Jacobs or Sarjeant had an assessed average, or the KL team itself in Hazelden)? Plus if it only applies to assessed averaged riders then Waldron should get one because he has an assessed 5.00.
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Neil,
I am not sure by picking up a direct quote from Jayne that this answers Islander 15's question. Rule 17.5 is quite clear and islander 15's comment in my view is quite valid. 17.4.3 that specifies a date in the month where the MA's change only applies to EL/PL MA's.
Martin Widman
Thanks Martin, it is clear and that's why I can't understand how it's seemingly been overlooked. Once a rider takes part in 4 meetings, irrespective of home or away, he gets a new average 7 days later, but this isn't the case for the Lynn trio for some reason. Similarly though Baseby should have a new average and this isn't appearing on the BSPA site either.
Anyway the Islanders have done 4 meetings now and the 3 to have ridden in all 4 and have new averages are:
Ellis 10.00
Hopwood 6.44
Ritchings 6.18
So Ellis goes to #1 in 7 days (after Coventry away and KL home) and Stoneman moves to reserve.
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I still haven't worked out how Mallett, Waldron and Kerr aren't riding with new averages despite their fourth meeting being on July 3rd. Good effort thoug from the Islanders with a special mention to Darryl.
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Does this mean Ellis will get a new average after this meeting as this is his 4th league meeting?
Yes, and effective in 7 days time so he's still at reserve for Coventry away and KL home. Without checking he's on about 10.3 atm so depending how he goes tonight he might be at #1.
King's Lynn Young Stars 2014?
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Yes, the 40.00 limit was agreed 2 years ago to be effective for the next 3 years and Diamonds, if Kerr wants to ride PL then he can't do NL as well as his PL average is over 5.00... Also though, I read that Josh Bailey has already signed a contract for 2014!