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1 hour ago, BL65 said:According to the book 'Speedway in Scotland' by Jim Henry and Ian Moultray, nine meetings were staged at Ashfield in 1953, with one rained off on 14th July. There is a comment that there was a long break between the Best Pairs meeting on 4th August and the final meeting on 29th September, with crowds having dipped to an all-time low. This suggests that a decision was taken not to stage a meeting on 11th August or beyond (with the exception of the Ken Le Breton Trophy) and the date should not, therefore, be included in the fixture list.
Thanks. I'll remove it from the fixture list as you suggest.
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Great stuff chaps. These results lists are really benefitting from your knowledge.
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Thank you again.
What was throwing me with the National Trophy was Stoke's absence from Round 4 after beating Coventry in Round 3. Were they due to meet New Cross?
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11/05 California - did anything take place?
01/06 California Whitsun Cup - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT
15/06 California Best Pairs - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT
20/07 California Individual Winner: Jack Davis - CONFIRM DATE, EVENT NAME & WINNER
17/08 Ringwood - did anything take place?
4/03 Southampton Possibles v Probables 61.5-43.5 Abandoned heat 18 - CONFIRM DATE, RESULT & REASON FOR ABANDONMENT29/03 Swindon v kaparna - Snowed Off - CONFIRM DATE06/05 Southampton v Cardiff (Southern League) - Rained Off - CONFIRM DATE25/05 Rye House Scratch Races - CONFIRM DATE & OUTRIGHT WINNER(S) IF ANY30/05 Dublin Chapelizod Irish Speedway Championship Cup - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT08/06 Rye House - did anything take place?17/06 Wolverhampton Midland Riders Championship QR - 4-way tie Eric Boothroyd, Arthur Payne, Cyril Quick, Jimmy Grant - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER?17/07 Ipswich v Aldershot (Southern League) - Postponed - CONFIRM DATE & REASON FOR POSTPONEMENT30/07 Fleetwood Highbury Trophy - Tie between Norman Hargreaves & Jeff Crawford - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER?29/08 Bristol World Championship QR - Tie between Dick Bradley & Brian Crutcher - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER?09/09 Southampton v Exeter (Southern League) - Rained Off - CONFIRM DATE10/09 Fleetwood Best Pairs - Rained Off - CONFIRM DATE -
05/04 & 19/04 & 05/05 Rye House - All I have are the three dates - did anything take place?
26/07 California Midsummer Championship - Tie between Trevor Davis & George Bason - CONFIRM DATE AND IF THERE WAS AN OUTRIGHT WINNER
13/09 California v Aldershot (Challenge) - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT
15/09 Rye House Championship PR 2 - Tie between Stan Bedford & Gil Goldfinch - CONFIRM DATE AND IF THERE WAS AN OUTRIGHT WINNER
06/05 Southampton World Championship QR Winner: Maury Mattingley - CONFIRM DATE AND WINNER31/05 Rye House Coronation Shield PR 1 - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT08/06 Southampton Best Pairs - Winners: B. McKeown & E. Brecknell - CONFIRM DATE & WINNERS26/06 Bristol Best Pairs - Tie between D. Bradley & C. Boss and E. Williams & F. Williams - CONFIRM DATE AND IF THERE WAS AN OUTRIGHT WINNER24/07 Ashfield v Scottish Select - Rained off - CONFIRM DATE & FIXTURE11/08 Ashfield Press Trophy - Postponed - CONFIRM DATE & FIXTURE & REASON FOR POSTPONEMENT28/08 at Motherwell - Glasgow v Edinburgh 61-47 - Listed as Scottish Coronation Cup Semi-Final - I've no mention of a final anywhere - CONFIRM COMPETITION AND DATE OF FINAL (IF THERE WAS ONE)I'd also like confirmation of the make up of the earlier rounds in the National Trophy. To save listing the whole thing here, can someone tell me if what is published here is correct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Speedway_National_League#National_Trophy -
Thanks for sorting that little lot out. Here are the rest of my queries for 1954:
18/04 California Best Pairs - Goldfinch & Mitchell tied on 16 points with Preedy & Baker - WAS THERE AN OUTRIGHT WINNER?
25/04 Brafield - WAS ANYTHING STAGED?
05/06 Aldershot Best Pairs - Result shown on Researcher file as a tie between Hockaday & Bunney and Taylor & Mason - WAS THERE AN OUTRIGHT WINNER?
27/06 California Eastbourne 60-32 - California Researcher file has just a basic entry with no result and the Eastbourne file carries nothing at all. The result was on my original sheet - CONFIRM FIXTURE & RESULT
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Regarding 18/04 Ringwood v Brafield, the result is on the Brafield Speedway Researcher file but not on the Ringwood file. Though shown as a S.A.L. match it obviously wasn't - so was it just a challenge?
Regarding Rigwood v Aldershot, I have a league fixture being raced on 20/06 result 50-33. Was this actually a challenge match?
I have an Aldershot v Ringwood fixture in the Metropolitan League on 24/04, result 48-36. Did the Metro League become the S.A.L.? The 17/04 Aldershot v Eastbourne is also shown as the Metro League and this now seems to be a S.A.L. fixture.
The good news is the for/against points totals are now balanced across the board.
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The Southern Area League is causing me some issues in the for/against points department. California appear to be balanced but i've got odd points kicking with Brafield, Eastbourne, Ringwood and Rye House. California may be affected as those four shake themselves out. The ten completed Aldershot fixtures are also out of kilter. I'll come back to them in due course.
Dealing with the first four, the scores I have are as follows:
Brafield v Eastbourne - 02/05 50-33 & no 2nd fixture
Brafield v Ringwood - 19/09 48-36 for double league points
Brafield v Rye House - 23/05 46-37 & 29/08 46-37
Eastbourne v Brafield - 20/06 27.5-54.5 & 12/09 47-31 for double league points
Eastbourne v Ringwood - 23/05 25-59 & 15/08 41-37
Eastbourne v Rye House - 25/04 34-49 & 18/07 38-43
Ringwood v Brafield - 18/04 35-48 & 06/06 35-49 (and 19/09 48-36 for D.L.P. as above)
Ringwood v Eastbourne - 16/05 51-33 & 08/08 50-29
Ringwood v Rye House - 04/07 50-33 & 12/09 50-34
Rye House v Brafield - 30/05 49-34 & 22/08 53-31
Rye House v Eastbourne - 13/06 60-22 & 11/07 53-31
Rye House v Ringwood - 27/06 51-33 & 05/09 50-34
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Outstanding information as always. Thanks to all for your contributions.
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8 minutes ago, compost said:London White City held the Cavalcade of Speed. As in other years this was a mixed meeting with little Speedway (a couple of heats).Middlesbrough meetings were apparently 'club only' events and so closed to the public.Check out some details on the Researcher website at http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/1955matchlistings.pdf (page 5)
That worksheet is actually what I'm attempting to update but it varies slightly from the Excel version I have so thanks for the heads up.
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12/04/1955 Southampton v Stockholm 59-37 - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT
17/04/1955 Ringwood Open - DID ANY MEETING TAKE PLACE?
03/05/1955 Southampton v Ipswich Rained Off - CONFIRM DATE
13/05/1955 Bristol - DID ANY MEETING TAKE PLACE?
21/05/1955 Belle Vue Empire Day Best Pairs - Sharples/Craven tied with Young/Cuppleditch - ANY OUTRIGHT RESULT OR JUST A TIE?
04/06/1955 Belle Vue Belle Vue Cup - Johnston, Craven & Sharples finished tied on 7 - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER OR JUST A TIE?
05/06/1955 Ringwood Open - DID ANY MEETING TAKE PLACE?
19/06/1955 Ringwood v Brafield (SAL) - DOESN'T APPEAR TO HAVE GONE AHEAD, REASON?
05/07/1955 Southampton World Championship QR Winner: Dick Bradley - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT
11/09/1955 Brafield v Eastbourne (Challenge) - RESULT?
13/09/1955 Southampton Open Trophy Winner Jack Geran - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT
20/09/1955 Swindon v Wimbledon 44-52 - NOT ON RESEARCHER WIMBLEDON FILE, CONFIRM DATE, EVENT & RESULT
02/10/1955 California Supporters Handicap Trophy Gooddy & Goldfinch finished tied on 14 - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER?
Both London White City & Middlesbrough appear to have run meetings but I have nothing for either - can anyone add anything?
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Cheers. I hadn't thought to check the League Cup fixtures out, I had wrongly assumed it was just an unfinished competition with only 4 fixtures.
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With regards to the league cup, were the 2 semi-finals one-legged affairs with Rye House defeating Southern Rovers 58-50 on 10th June and California defeating Eastbourne 61-46 on the 17th?
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Battling manfully onward with 1956:
30/03/1956 Southampton v Monarkerna 54-42 CONFIRM DATE & RESULT
10/07/1956 Southampton World Championship QR Winner: Len Williams DATE & RESULT
29/07/1956 California v Southern Rovers (SAL) DATE & OUTCOME (postponed?)
26/08/1956 Rye House Brian Crutcher Trophy DATE & OUTCOME (postponed?)
27/08/1956 Southampton Pictorial Trophy Winner: Edwards DATE & RESULT (forename?)
06/09/1956 Oxford King's Of Oxford Trophy DATE & OUTCOME (postponed? this meeting appears to have taken place 7 days later)
16/09/1956 Eastbourne Sussex Championship Winner: Merv Hannan DATE & RESULT
09/10/1956 Southampton Ernie Rawlins Memorial Trophy Winner: Dick Bradley DATE & RESULT
21/10/1956 Rye House v California (Challenge) DATE & OUTCOME (no result posted)
The Speedway Researcher California file carries details for a home match with Rye House but no date. Result 44-39. Any further info on this one since publication?
London White City shows as having run in 1956 but my list merely states "fixtures incomplete". Any info available?
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Where are CSI: Aldershot when you need them?
I forgot to mention the Colin Pratt "error" (a word I'm reluctant to use because I fully appreciate the difficulty in ascertaining the facts from back in the day).
All I can add at this point is the 59-23 result tallies with the S.A.L. table on the SGB website, which will do nicely for my purposes.
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Good stuff, thank you.
I spent a while double checking the Researcher files last night and discovered that in the 07/09 report Dave Slater is missing from the individual scorechart. He scores 2 (0, 0, 1, 1). It didn't resolve the extra point issue of course but perhaps it could be a lead.
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I've got a point kicking in the for/against totals of Aldershot and Rye House.
The results I have are:
13/07 Aldershot 51 Rye 32
14/07 Rye 52 Aldershot 29
07/09 Aldershot 60 Rye 23
08/09 Rye 48 Aldershot 35
Can someone please confirm these results?
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Continuing to work on these results lists, here I need help with:
Oxford v Leicester (Challenge) 65-29 - Speedway Researcher file has the date as Monday 14th April. However 14th April was a Sunday. My list has the meeting on Friday 19th April - CONFIRM DATE.
08/04/1957 Southampton: Crutcher v Knutsson (Practice) 50-43 - DATE, TEAM NAMES & RESULT
19/04/1957 Southampton: Good Friday Trophy - Winner: Brian Crutcher - DATE & RESULT
21/05/1957 Southampton: Pictorial Trophy - Winner: Brian Crutcher - DATE & RESULT
18/06/1957 Southampton: Handicap Trophy - Winner: George White - DATE & RESULT
16/07/1957 Southampton: World Championship British QR - Winner: Brian Crutcher - DATE & RESULT
My fixture list has entries for the following but is lacking in the necessary details:
26/07 Bradford (Postponed due to bus strike) DATE & MEETING
14/09 Aldershot DATE, MEETING & RESULT
16/09 Exeter DATE, MEETING & RESULT
22/09 California DATE, MEETING & RESULT
06/10 California - listed as Supporters Trophy, postponed. CONFIRM DATE, MEETING AND REASON FOR POSTPONEMENT.
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The Oxford files on Speedway Researcher show no track records were set in 1972. However in 1973 George Hunter is credited with a TR of 65.4 in heat 2 of the Midland Riders QR on 10/05/1973. So it appears the track was changed between the 72 & 73 seasons.
Ole Olsen lowered it to 65.2 in heat 6 of the Champions' £100 Trophy on 19th July.
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Ach I should have spotted the Bradley typo! Splendid stuff, thanks again.
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As always I'm looking for help with the following:
04/04 Oxford - programme says Easter Cup Trophy won by Jack Young but I have a fixture entitled North v South with result 44-52. No mention of any event on this date in Speedway Researcher file. Can anyone shed light on this one?
26/05 Wimbledon - fixture described merely as 'Open'. It was cancelled due to the London bus strike. What was this proposed meeting, individual, pairs, etc??
26/05 Exeter - Open Championship - was result a tie between Ronnie Genz & Dick Bradley or was there an outright winner?
10/06 Southampton - Southern Riders Championship QR - Winner: Ove Fundin CONFIRM DATE & RESULT
15/07 Southampton - World Championship British QR - Winner: Ronnie Genz CONFIRM DATE & RESULT
19/08 Southampton - World Championship British SF - Winner: Jack Geran CONFIRM DATE & RESULT
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Great help as always, many thanks.
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Tidying up a 1959 results list. Can anyone help with the following:
22/03 Ainsdale - Novice Championship - Winner: Derek Skyner CONFIRM DATE & RESULT
27/03 Southampton v The Rest (Challenge) 62-33 DATE & RESULT
11/04 Norwich v Poole (Britannia Shield) Postponed - rain DATE
18/04 Edinburgh - Student Open Championship - Winner: Templeton DATE & RESULT (WHICH TEMPLETON?)
25/04 Swindon v Poole (Britannia Shield) Postponed - rain DATE
12/05 Southampton - Southern Riders Championship QR - Joint Winners: Oven Fundin & Ron How DATE & RESULT
16/06 Southampton - Pride Of The South - Winner: Brian Crutcher DATE & RESULT
30/06 Southampton v Polish Touring Team 55-35 DATE & RESULT
15/07 St. Austell - British League Pairs - Winners: I. Williams & G. White AND/OR M. Broadbank & N. Street DATE & RESULT (TIE?)
30/08 or 03/09 Ipswich - Suffolk Junior Championship - Winner: Dave Hankins DATE
22/09 Southampton v Continentals 66-42 DATE & RESULT
Concerning the Southern Area League - did Aldershot take over Southern Rovers fixtures and incorporate the 31st May Eastbourne 38 Souther Rovers 34 result into their figures, therefor not racing a league match at Eastbourne?
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Cheers Sidney.
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Paul Muchene R.I.P.
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The first time I saw Paul was in what was probably the biggest meeting of his career. He was meeting reserve for the 1984 N.L.R.C. at Wimbledon and he got a ride when Steve Lawson touched the tapes in heat 4. I seem to recall him arriving with his family in an old red Avenger with the bike strapped to the back.