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Family of four at P'boro is £40, the four of us at Ipswich is £56, so with a bit of diesel we can watch better racing in a better stadium, and its elite lge. I can be home from the EOES sometimes before my friend is back from foxhall when they both ride on thursday. Thats the main reason i gave up on Ipswich, the presentation is so slow, its painful. Its a choice based on good speedway rather than supporting a team. If Lakeside came and won at P'boro i would be on my feet applauding their efforts.Fair enough.
Very unusual thing to start attending tracks away from your home town. What put you off from watching Ipswich for so long? I would have thought they were a pretty good side to support over the years, only really struggling in recent years. I can see today why you might prefer Kings Lynn and Peterborough, but for most of those years, I'm not sure many people would have made that choice.
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Stop smoking that crap, its making you paranoid.Can I suggest keeping a spreadsheet of which of your identities have been to which tracks? Then you wouldn't keep tripping yourself up.
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Not quite true 500cc, not been to Ipswich since the John Berry days on a regular basis. Kings Lynn and P'boro are my tracks of choice, have been for a long time.For somebody who followed Ipswich for the best part of 40 years, your preferred style of track seems to have changed radically in the last couple of years.
Been a few times, but its always been too slick, needs some dirt on it. Will agree, its better than Eastbourne.If you haven't been how can you form an opinion?
Personally not a fan of Eastbourne but you do get some good entertaining racing at Lakeside and normally a pretty good crowd.
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I'M KKS........any spartacus fans out thereYep, I was tarred with that brush. The obsession from some is incredible!!!
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I would not go to Lakeside or Eastbourne if you paid me im afraid, already got that boring t-shirt...yawn yawn.BluePanther,
Thanks for cherry picking the points made in my previous post.
I am not biased but if you truly believe that there have not been tremendous inroads to improve Lakeside, particularly over the past 3 seasons, then I give up.
As for your comments around our visits to the EOES last season. All I can say on that point is that you clearly weren't at our place watching your team's return performances; or you'd have kept schtum.
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Swindon have a decent raceable track, no reason the ELRC should not stay with them. All the fans want is a good racing track for the guys to compete on....
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Blupanther goes to mildenhall chaps, its got dirt on it, its called preperation, something some elite lge tracks can learn from. I see KL, P'boro and Swindon will host major events this year. All big racing tracks..someone agrees with meSaw some great meetings at both Waterden Road and Plough Lane. Agree it isn't the size but down to the skill of the riders.
Bluepanther should take a trip to Mildenhall a small track where there's always been plenty of entertainment.
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Peter Karlsson turned up, he always does. The rest were a joke, just went thru the motions. Of course, if you want these teams to ride but not race, and your happy with that, thats up to you. Sky are obviously not happy with the viewing figures they get, and that is obviously because people are not watching it. As Holder and Ward recently said, they have to ride on some bad tracks in the UK. We all know which tracks they were talking about. Some of these tracks have less dirt on them than a pair of size ten trainers.Is this an objective discussion about racing or just a platform for you to voice your petty and irrational dislike of certain clubs, and their promotions ?
First we have a rant about small tracks now you are saying that when Lakeside and Eastbourne go to Peterborough they are poor teams that provide no opposition.
If you had a clue what you were talking about you would know that since team racing was introduced sometimes decent teams have taken a pasting on the wrong day and sometimes poor teams get lucky and produce a close result. The fact remains that both Lakeside and Eastbourne performed pretty well away overall over the course of last season (and the one before) so blaming them for small crowds at EOAS is pretty churlish. Things like a machine failure or exclusion at the wrong time can totally change the dynamics of a match. Its just the nature of the sport. Most of us have seen meetings at times with close scoreline but processional racing and matches that have some cracking racing despite a big gap in the scores.
Spouting off about other clubs in derogatory fashion doesn't make you look clever or a better person than the rest of us, in fact it just makes you look a prat. One of the great things about speedway is the sense of equality between most fans.
Some of the overtakes that Davey Watt pulled off last season, practically turning the bike inside out were probably as good as you'll see anywhere in the world. You won't get much support from anyone by claiming that Peter Karlsson is anything other than a master of his trade and usually worth the admission alone. Darcy Ward is class personified at Lakeside, as is Chris Holder. But like all tracks the entertainment value varies week to week for a whole range of reasons. That is the nature of the sport at Lakeside and everywhere else.
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Thats because Eastbourne provide no opposition, 58-36 and 54-38 i believe. Lakeside were even worse, 61-32 and 57-36. How can that pull in crowds, its great to welcome teams like Poole who at least give it a good go on their travels.Sorry but being a regular at Eastbourne our crowds arent silly little ones The track may be small but does produce exciting racing at times Have to say that on my visit to Peterborough last year the crowd was preyyt dismal and the racing not much better too and that was both sides not just my team !!!
How can they moan, they never had big crowds in the first place. When Sky pull the plug, we will see those that go to the wall. P'boro have NO debts, that cant be said of some in the elite lge.Well I didn't hear Stuart Douglas or Jon Cook moaning about our attendance last season.
But Rick Frost? Oh, what a different story.
Didn't qualify for the play-offs, then immediately threw his toys out the pram; blaming poor attendances as a potential reason for pulling out of Peterborough Speedway. He wasn't prepared to look closer to home and blame it on his rider selection; nor how many times a certain Dane was absent through other engagements or 'sickness'(?). Let's blame it on Peterborough's fans. What a joke.
You don't have a case to rest fella. A bag to keep your make-up in (and Trevor Swales's gallon drums of 'fake bake') maybe.
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Its the small tracks in the UK that make it boring, its not the riders of today or the past. Lakeside, Eastbourne and Belle Vue hard silly little tracks and silly little crowds. I rest my case oh yee with heads in the sand.Since crowds of 30,000 used to watch Craven, Briggs and Fundin race "slowly" on deep tracks, but now we're lucky to get 1,500 watching today's stars on their rocketships, how do you justify your crazy assumption?
Maybe you need to engage your onions
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Is it a race to have a team in place, is that a new regulation that has passed me by ! Be assured, P'boro have their team in place, its their business when they wish to announce it.Be real this is 2013, are you nieve or what! be ahead of the game be in front assets now don't mean nothing saying that your rubbishey club have a few but still don't have a team in place.
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Thats not correct, Troy went 'missing' off season after the 2011 campaign. We all know he is a loose canon, he has spats everywhere he rides, and thats probably why no one wants to buy him.Pretty sure Troy will be more concerned that the club that owns him doesn't want him in their team for the scond year running.
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Troy will probably think he does not figure long term in Swindon's plans, as they dont seem interested in buying him.
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Everyone will be above the Aces, im suggesting the Wolves will be down with them possibly. Not sure, but the top two may have one eye on the GP's...Think Coventry and Eastbourne will be above Belle Vue
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If Panthers finish just below Wolves, they will be one place above Belle Vue i reckon..Peterborough had the choice of Neils K Iversen, Hans Andersen, Kenneth Bjerre and Troy Batchelor to take up the #1 race jacket.
Would have picked Andersen myself but not suprised he wanted to stay with the strong looking Swindon team ....... Hougaard will be a good signing until he moves out of the reserve postion and Kosuich drops down insted.
Have predicted Panthers to battle Coventry and Eastbourne for 7th place ..... just behind Wolves !!
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Watching meetings at Belle Vue and Lakeside on tv, im suprised they can pay their electric bill...
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Surely his name should be stevebee .........That a bit rich espicially when your post is liked by stevebrum. I hope it gets sorted quickly so that we can leave you lot to dribble alone on your own thread I thought NKI had gone to Lynn and you're welcome to the oik when you cough up. Hans will be a bit miffed that you've given up on him
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Dont recall Hans and Troy ever saying that i must admit. Seems likely that you will get Hans on loan, but as you sold Troy to P'boro in the first place, in seems the ruling to buy him back is a fair one i would have thought. Maybe Frosty will do some payment terms or some other compromise.So the Peterborough fans would rather see two of their assets sit out the season as a matter of principle. The rules allow "assets" to go out on loan if they are not included in their parent club's plans - as was shown for NKI who is going to KL for a third year!!
No wonder they don't want to ride for Peterborough
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Well Swindon dont, and i would guess P'boro have a small claim on them having purchased them in the first place. If you cant afford them, lower your sights and live within your means.That'll be the ones that aren't wanted by Peterborough then
As I've said before no one OWNS them!
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Its logical to rent it if you need the money, not if you want to dispose of that asset. Two sides of this argument, both have merits, compromise will have to be found.Think I'd rather rent it out to get some money coming in as that's the most logical answer.
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Well, if you have another house to live in, then just keep it on the open market.I've got a house I want to sell but can't sell it due to the recession but have a queue of people wanting to rent it, what should I do peterborough fans?.
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Tested by who ? The cost would be enormous, it will never happen.what's that got to do with this? the riders are self employed.
They are not and have never been employees of Peterborough, therefore, technically Frost has no call on their services. I am not sure how and why the asset system was set up but it was done in the days before European and Employment laws.
That is why any rider will ride where they want. Frost, I am afraid to say, although I do empathise with how things have gone for him since he has come in to speedway, may have now put speedway in a position where the asset system could be tested in a court of law.
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So much tosh being written on here...The BSPA would not sanction any loan agreement, they have ruled on Troy already. Matt Fraud has spoken
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King's Lynn Stars 2013
in SGB Premiership Speedway League
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This team has a good chance, as do some other teams. I'm sure you will be in, or close to the play offs. Alot depends on your reserves away form, but that applies to most teams. I doubt if NKI has any engines that are not up to scratch, no worries on that one.