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  2. Posted

    6 minutes ago, JoeW436 said:

    What’s the parking like for Leicester?

    There is a car park at the stadium but gets full pretty quickly if your not there by 6.45 ish
    Alternative is to still follow the signs to the stadium but park in the shopping complex car park. no charge and four hours limit. We use it all of the time without any problems.
    Then follow folk to the stadium which is about a 10 minute walk.
    Enjoy. 

  3. Posted

    There is a car park at the stadium but gets full pretty quickly if your not there by 6.45 ish
    Alternative is to still follow the signs to the stadium but park in the shopping complex car park. no charge and four hours limit. We use it all of the time without any problems.
    Then follow folk to the stadium which is about a 10 minute walk.
    Enjoy. 

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  4. Posted · Edited by 1 valve

    13 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

    I personally think they should have made a comment about coaching or re-training the referee, a one match ban is pointless if he does the same in every meeting. Did they explain to him what he did wrong & what he should have done?

    Sports governing bodies refrain from providing details relating to findings from an investigation into match officials preferring to limit information to that which would be clearly visible to the public, such as a change of the  scheduled match official. This is very much along the lines of disciplinary procedures in the workplace. 

    To be fair to the SCB, they did promptly communicate publicly that the referees actions were to be investigated and subsequently provided the follow up to say that the matter had been dealt with.

     As part of the hearing, the incident(s) would have been reviewed together with the referee. After due deliberation, the panel would have informed the referee of his mistakes and what the correct course of action/decisions he should have taken. He would also have been given follow up work  in terms of revision of rules and procedures etc.  The one match ban would be the next match he was listed to officiate which would also provide the time for him to complete his corrective actions. There will also be follow up sessions planned to evaluate the referees performance in future meetings.

      

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  7. Posted

    10 minutes ago, iainb said:

    I couldn't disagree more, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the track last night, a bit heavy? Yes. The Belle Vue lads seemed to be revelling in it! Leicester were poor out of the start and then poor for the rest of the race, it's not the first time Leicester have fallen to pieces at the NSS and probably won't be the last!

    On what basis would you have abandoned/postponed the meeting before heat 1?

    Poor weather forecast, Fans unlikely to see 15 heats, A track  not conducive to racing on (via riders from each team).
    But I would agree to run it to get a fixture out of the way given I was already too late to avoid paying riders travel, stadium & other operating costs.  

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  8. Posted · Edited by 1 valve

    26 minutes ago, iainb said:

    Belle Vue is one of the safest tracks in the world, there wasn't a single fall last night and nobody really looked like they were getting into much trouble, yes visibilty was an issue and the track was pretty much shot by heat 14. If we're going to wait for perfect conditions, especially in Manchester, we may as well shut up shop now.

    A perfect track is not required to produce the type of excellent, entertaining racing regularly seen at BV.
    But realistically, last night, all things considered the shop should have stayed closed on this occasion. 

  9. Posted · Edited by 1 valve

    12 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

    Two questions.

    1. Is Rory Schlein always this pessimistic?

    During the early races Rory was doing his best to remain positive about the racing “improving as track conditions improved”. 
    Then the rain came. Consequently, Rory was quite right with his comments. The track, with racing on it being questionable from the off soon became barely rideable at all thus illustrating how questionable it was to start the meeting in the first place.

    The best thing to come out of to the meeting was the riders remained fit. The worst thing? A bore fest & riders preferring to preserve their skins for the remainder of the season. A bad advert for speedway. So most probably a good thing not many folk there to watch it! 

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  10. Posted

    20 hours ago, Ray Stadia said:

    The point I was making, is the loss of speedway tracks/teams, is not just Osborne. As for Coventry, Cradley Heath and I think Stoke and maybe Somerset, they did own the tracks, but that didn't save speedway. 

    Those owners who eventually sold up, by & large, did so after many years of owning, developing & maintaining the facility whilst ensuring as best as possible, a competitive team was put together. 
    Osborne, on the other hand has an undeniable history of acquiring stadiums/clubs and running both into the ground with little or no investment in either before selling off for development. 
    The message is clear, When Osbourne comes calling, so does the Grim Reaper.

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  12. Posted

    10 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

    Only Belle Vue are a Monday track, the rest race on Thursdays.

    Not true. Premier clubs have Monday as an alternative race night - next Monday Leicester v Ipswich ko cup and remember, Monday is TV night for speedway when it’s on. 

  13. Posted

    On 3/20/2024 at 11:28 AM, 1Tsunami said:

    Yes. BE still own the site so have to be involved for sports like speedway can return. Can't see it as being an easy path for speedway to return as BE could just stall with any offer for the rent knowing that sometimes in the future they will go away. Sad  

    More than likely speedway alone would not be able to provide the  necessary financial resource to support any form of worthwhile development.  The answer is more likely along the lines of BE being a partner in developing the site as a National Motor Sport facility with funding being provided by the combined financial involvement from the likes of various motor sport governing bodies, Local Authorities, National lottery and private/commercial enterprises, leading to BE exiting the partnership at some reagreed stage having made an acceptable profit. 

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  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, Aries said:

    That still doesn’t make it good value Dave which ever way you slice it. As you say some want to watch who just can’t get to the meeting for whatever reason so have little choice. For some 15 quid is a drop in the ocean and will think nothing of it and just pay it, none of that still makes 15 quid for a pre-season filler for two hours value for money. Some get Eurosport free with their TV packages, but a lot don’t. But you can sign up for Discovery plus on one of their cheaper packages for £6.99 a month, during the speedway season you’ll get a GP or two, and a couple of Premiership meetings plus any other sport on there that tickles your fancy for the entire month. And that’s without the other channels that come with it that may or may not be of interest. Now that IS value for money and makes 15 quid for one warm up filler seem a bit bonkers. 

    Value for money can only be calculated when compared with the next best alternative. You mention the prices of Discovery & Eurosport, but they weren't showing the meeting. The only alternatives to choose from were to go to the actual meeting, watch via BSN or give it a miss. 
    No doubt live speedway is (on most occasions) the best alternative for the actual experience, however, the lowest out of pocket cost for two adults to attend would have been around £50.00 whereas via  BSN it was £15.00. 
    So for "value for money" comparison. The choices for 2 adults were,  a) attend the live meeting for £50.00, b)stream the event for £15.00 or indeed C)£0.00  to do neither.  
     

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  15. Posted

    Maybe, rather than continuing to regard Brandon Estates as the enemy, time now for all vested parties to work together with the aim of forming a resolution to the current stalemate.
    One route could be to explore how Brandon Estates could partake with others in creating/developing/building a "National Motor sports Arena" to accommodate such sports, Speedway, Stox, Go-kart's, MotoX, Drifting and stunt events etc. Maximising utilisation of the facility would be based on regular events for the paying public to attend as well as training and experience based events across most if not all of the sports featured. 
    lots of hoops to jump through, but maybe this suggestion is worth considering?
     

  17. Posted · Edited by 1 valve

    33 minutes ago, Dave Jones said:

    There can be no doubt that the group have performed a minor miracle getting us this far, with huge support from the council, MP's , the residents of the local area, &supporters from UK and futher afield and deserve massive credit for what has been achieved to date.

    Absolutely "spot on". A tremendous achievement by all concerned in the Battle to keep Brandon away from the clutches of developers and maintaining hopes alive for the eventual return of Stox & speedway. Unfortunately, the war has yet to be won so no doubt more fights will arise.
    However, it does look like, at least,  the end of the beginning as been established!

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  20. Posted

    On 2/5/2024 at 7:18 AM, one of clubs said:

    At the moment a former BV Colts rider is on BBC's the apprentice and the only thing we hear is that his company supplies pies to MCFC. Yet another example of poor promotion, the powers that be should be right on that by way of taking advantage of free publicity. Shocking really. Terry Russell and his violin case brigade have alot to answer for with the Sky sports money.They did very well out of it thankyou and most of his associated tracks are no more.

    There is very little kudos (if any) to be gained by the BSPA making effort to promote the scenario you refer.

    The BBC correctly understand what is newsworthy i.e that they have a contestant whos runs a business that provides pies to Manchester City FC (currently the most successful club in world football) this is significant in a competition aimed at finding a business entrepreneur.  

    Conversely they would see little relevance in saying one of their contestants use to ride for a speedway clubs junior team. 

  21. Posted

    On 2/5/2024 at 7:18 AM, one of clubs said:

    At the moment a former BV Colts rider is on BBC's the apprentice and the only thing we hear is that his company supplies pies to MCFC. Yet another example of poor promotion, the powers that be should be right on that by way of taking advantage of free publicity. Shocking really. Terry Russell and his violin case brigade have alot to answer for with the Sky sports money.They did very well out of it thankyou and most of his associated tracks are no more.

    There is very little kudos (if any) to be gained by the BSPA making effort to promote the scenario you refer.

    The BBC correctly understand what is newsworthy i.e that they have a contestant whos runs a business that provides pies to Manchester City FC (currently the most successful club in world football) this is significant in a competition aimed at finding a business entrepreneur.  

    Conversely they would see little relevance in saying one of their contestants use to ride for a speedway clubs junior team. 

     

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  22. Posted

    On 12/21/2023 at 6:23 PM, iris123 said:

    Does the court decision today against EUFA running a monopoly have any ramifications for speedway ?

    Does it mean the BSPA or the FIM couldn't stop a rival set up in the UK etc

    Or does the lack of tracks and money mean there is alittle point in setting any rival up ?

    To be clear. The ruling addressed a “pre-existing shortfall” in UEFA’s framework which it had corrected in June 2022

    So yes, a new super league could now be formed but would need to have promotion/relegation to avoid falling foul of the same “closed shop”issue faced by UEFA. 
    However, as both UEFA & FIFA would legitimately be allowed to ban clubs & players who joined a Super League from competing in their own competitions (including the World Cup) there would be nowhere for the clubs to be promoted/relegated to/from. 
    A Super League May happen one day, but not independent from UEFA/FIFA 


     

  25. Posted

    3 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

    I find it interesting there are rules to stop riders messing around clubs, but bit rules to stop clubs messing around the riders!

    There's quite a bit of that. The most noticeable one being a rider who withholds his services because of not being paid can be suspended from riding anywhere in the UK!

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