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59 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said:Hasnt it been past experience that where stock cars are involved speedway take second best. If that is the case, would it be a good move.
If Speedway is second best when it comes to numbers of spectators / profitability etc. then you have to accept that ,
and be thankful that the Stock Car promoter is happy to share a track with speedway
Too many Speedway fans moan about sharing a stadium with Stock Cars, greyhounds, etc. yet it is often the other activities that keep the stadium going as a business
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A good idea
But one problem could be - does every track have a strong internet connection ?
The UK doesn't yet have good 100% Broadband / 4G coverage
{ I don't know the technology involved, I am assuming if you live stream an event , you need a good internet connection at the location where it takes place }
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55 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:ACTUALLY there are limitations on the size and shape of the track that can be installed... for many and especially those who return year after year it is the occasion, the atmosphere and the whole day that combines to make it special.
Agree with everything you are saying regarding - atmosphere/ occasion etc. , BUT there are still plenty of empty seats every year , that perhaps a better track would help to fill.
It's no good being in denial about the poor racing at Cardiff , it's the only real fault with the whole event, and surely the track could be tweaked to try and improve things
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Although I have enjoyed the Cardiff GP each time I have gone, I will agree the racing has never been great on each visit
As it is a temporary track , does anybody know why a different shaped track or something like different shale couldn't be tried each year ?
perhaps copy the shape of a track known for good racing, there seems to be plenty of room.
they effectively have a blank canvas every year
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1 hour ago, teaboy279 said:It still amazes me that with all the mental health awareness these days that people still are so militant in thier dislike for Carter. I choose to remember my favorite speedway rider as a child.
Taking your own life is one thing , taking someone else's life is another thing altogether and probably explains most of the dislike for Carter
He could also have a lot to say, some of which people loved , some of it just wound people up .
In todays world more people around him would be aware he had mental problems, but would anyone tell him to get help ? you have to hope so
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3 hours ago, Vince said:Was notified the other day that I can get an ATA boomerang carnet for £175.
As for the checks considering the number of stolen bikes leaving the UK I'm all for it. Way more than half the people I know with off road bikes have had one or more stolen. Its a massive international business and anything that makes it more difficult can only be good.
The past few years driving a van full of bikes across Europe has been easy. Unfortunately just as easy for criminals as racers.
Good point you make regarding the checks on bikes , considering the amount of stolen bikes heading to Europe
Hopefully more checks will also find some of the many stolen Sprinter & Transit vans that end up in Poland , Romania etc.
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19 hours ago, Jonny the spud said:Even if the carnet does last a year it’s still a ball ache, I know riders have ridden abroad before... I was one of them.
Every bike frame / engine number had to be on the corner with long waits at the border etc....I’ve also been the organizer when you get a call on Friday morning saying ‘can you race on Sunday in Germany’ , just organizing ferry’s/ tunnels, time off work, bike prep etc is hard enough with having to add the “fun” of customs to it all.
still... blue passports eh?
Is it really that much of a ball ache ?
the Carnet lasts 12 months , you get one at the start of the season and away you go { if your a pro rider the cost should be tax deductable }
As for - long waits at the border , I have travelled to many countries around the world that are non EU ,
but the only place I have had long waits ,many times from Customs, is at Calais , BEFORE BREXIT WHEN WE WERE IN THE EU
So for me personally , if I had to wait ages at Calais , it would just remind of the good old days when we were in the EU
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On 1/17/2021 at 2:05 PM, teaboy279 said:Been reading in the banger forums that the Carnet is going to cost from 265 quid to 390 plus vat. But there are exemptions for elite level sports, so speedway may get away with that as British government has deemed the top 2 leagues as elite.
Grass/longtrack trips to the continental defiantly look set to get a darn sight dearer I think.
I am sure I have read somewhere that the Carnet lasts for 12months ?
Could be wrong, but if true that wouldn't be so bad a cost for a rider over a season { Tax deductable as well ? }
Riders from UK have been doing Continental meetings since the 1950s { before EU was invented } so I am sure they can find a way , if they want to
I am an optimist, I think when cross-channel traffic get back to normal { after Covid } , a lot of things will be smoothed out , compromises made etc. { it is in both sides interest }
Plus some people will find loopholes & ways of bending rules if necessary
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2 hours ago, IronScorpion said:Sorry if this sounds a bit thick(ish) but wouldn't the long stroke push the piston into the cylinder head. Thought it would be the other way round.
the piston for the short stroke engine may have a lower crown height , or the long stroke crankshaft may have a shorter con rod ,
or you may need to put a spacer under the barrel { although this would be visible, so maybe not a good idea if cheating }
Capacity of an engine can only be increased by either - increasing bore size, increasing stroke of crankshaft , or increasing both of these sizes
If a manufacturer offers long stroke & short stroke versions of the same 500cc engine , then the short stroke engine would need a bigger bore size than the long stroke engine to bring it up to 500cc
Depending on how the engine has been designed, It may be possible to combine the short stroke piston/barrel with the long stroke crankshaft to create an oversize engine with off the shelf parts
{ although I don't think you would get a massive increase in capacity this way }
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On 10/23/2020 at 10:15 PM, cinderfella said:I'm not aware of the technicalities but I think I read it in one of the posts in this Forum regarding allegations of an engine that was used in a Polish meeting a few years ago with, sadly, fatal consequences.
I believe both Jawa(JRM?) and GM still manufacture both short and long stroke engines so both must be used.I think what you mean is - using a long stroke crankshaft , with a short stroke barrel & piston , this would create an oversize engine
you could do this by mixing parts from a manufacturers short & long stroke engines ,
or if you really wanted to cheat really well , you would get some parts machined / made to be even more oversize
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15 hours ago, Chris116 said:Hope the place floods and all the flats sink into the River Wandle.
Me too
Its not as if London has no other Football stadiums / Clubs
yet this was the last Stock Car / Greyhound / speedway track in London , and AFC Wimbledon didn't care about the 2 sports using the existing stadium that got kicked out
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14 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:I’ve just read chris Louis talking about the restrictions they have to put in place to get fans back in stadiums, this is no way a slur on Chris or British speedway and what they are doing but I simply will not attend any speedway meetings while any restrictions of any kind are in place, I’m not going into the rights and wrongs of the covid stuff in this post but I go to speedway to socialise and enjoy the sport, I’m not go to be treated like a naughty little child, sorry I know it’s harsh on speedway and it’s 100% not their fault but it’s how I feel, I’m missing the social aspect of speedway as I am with other things I do but I can’t enjoy live speedway from the naughty step
Your choice, but if every speedway supporter had your attitude and was boycotting meetings then Clubs would soon fold up and there wouldn't be any Speedway to watch
I hope to be able to attend meetings soon, as I think the Clubs need support now more than ever ( and I wont be sulking about wearing a mask )
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4 hours ago, martinmauger said:I read somehere, possibly here on the forum, that Lee blew Kenny Carter away in the Golden Helmet at Halifax when Carter was 'the boy' around the Shay....
I remember that happening, it was at the time that Carter was going around telling everyone he was " England Number 1 "
would love to have seen it
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9 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said:It's the old assumption that anyone interested in speedway must be interested by other motor sports. Would you put rugby in a football programme because both involve pitches and balls? No.....you know what I mean ;-)
Being taken as "Just another motorsport" has been the bane of speedway's existence. Just look at the new SGP scoring system designed to "Fit in with other motor sports" or TV presentation of speedway in the not too distant past making references to motorcycle racing in general and talking about their stars as if they were also household names to us.
Most of the supporters I've known over the years are more likely to follow non-league football or ice hockey than anything else with a motor in.
I have found the opposite to you , when I used to go to Wimbledon speedway & stock cars I used to see other people who watched both sports.
The same happened when I was a regular at Reading speedway on a monday night , I would often see some of the same faces at Aldershot stock cars on a thursday night
Have friends interested in speedway who also follow moto cross , moto GP , formula 1 etc.
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I often read comments on here with people moaning about speedway sharing stadiums with stock car & greyhound racing .
Yet how are these stadiums supposed to make money and stay open ?
1 speedway meeting a week , 6 months a year is not a lot of income with the small crowds that now attend.
Stock Car & Greyhound events can run during summer & winter , and the weather is rarely bad enough to cancel a meeting ( unlike speedway )
All that's needed when sharing with Stock Cars is some decent track maintenance and some careful planning of fixtures
If you don't like Greyhounds or Stocks at your local speedway , that's fine , but don't moan when it closes down for financial reasons
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4 minutes ago, geoff100 said:In london last weekend went to see ticket prices for a show was quoted £192 so speedway is good value .
But would you want to pay £192 to see Speedway in some of the shabby stadiums that are currently used in the UK ?
There is a market for Speedway tickets at those prices, but only for World championship GPs
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7 hours ago, iris123 said:And you have to sell that ‘but further away’ to fans. Today football is generally the top sport and yet you would want those fans out at a disadvantage to a lesser sport ? Why should they then pay good money for a poor view ? It just doesn’t work like that anymore. People expect a good stadium with a good view and a certain standard of facility nowadays like decent toilets
Doesn’t sound like a good business strategy to give potentially your main source of income the poor standards, when probably just down the road another club is offering something better
If you buy a cheap ticket at any big sports stadium , you end up watching a long way from the pitch/circuit , yet people still buy these tickets that are " a bit further away"
the first time I went to Cardiff Speedway GP , I was in one of the £20 seats and it did feel like watching speedway from the window of an aeroplane , but I enjoyed it and thought to myself that this is the same view that a lot of people pay MORE to see a sold out big Rugby match.
I have been to Football & Ruby matches in big stadiums and you are often so far away from the pitch you cant make out who individual players are , so why do people keep coming back to these events if being " a bit further away " is a problem
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8 minutes ago, Piotr Pyszny said:Why would any football club want a speedway track round their pitch? They make viewing terrible for spectators. As a kid, I watched Halifax Town and Halifax Dukes at The Shay. The viewing for football was very poor, because of the speedway track, whose presence also resulted in the narrowest pitch in the Football League. Early and late in the football season, a film of dust covered every surface.
In an ideal world , every Sport would like to operate in a single-use stadium and not have to share with other sports.
however if 2 or more Sports could use a stadium , it must make the finances better for everyone involved.
I also cant see that it makes the viewing terrible , just a bit further away that's all.
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18 hours ago, Split said:This might have been discussed here before so apologies if I’m simply bringing up an old topic.
Apparently New Plough Lane is a proposed stadium on the site of the old speedway/greyhound stadium in Southwest London. Once built, it will be the home of AFC Wimbledon. Was there ever any talk of including a speedway track?
Yes, probably been discussed here and on every other Speedway / Stock Car / Greyhound racing forum for years,
but the football club were never interested in sharing a stadium with - Speedway , Stock Cars or Greyhound Racing , and this suited the developers too as a multi use stadium would have been slightly bigger , meaning less room to build hundreds of Flats , which of course was their priority
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1 hour ago, iris123 said:All sounds plausible until you see that he is writing articles about events much further back than that. Now he either has a selective memory or he knows where to research things. Given that and his continual posting of links to historical sites I would think it very strange that he asks about this meeting or in a previous thread asks about the size of a certain track he has previously written about on a number of ocassions....
Look at the evidence and judge, rather than jump in and post
Sorry for jumping in and posting , I will ask your permission next time
looking further at the "evidence" I notice that most of the people who criticize Gustix rarely write anything interesting or intelligent themselves , yet they enjoy calling an old man names
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1 hour ago, iris123 said:All sounds plausible until you see that he is writing articles about events much further back than that. Now he either has a selective memory or he knows where to research things. Given that and his continual posting of links to historical sites I would think it very strange that he asks about this meeting or in a previous thread asks about the size of a certain track he has previously written about on a number of ocassions....
Look at the evidence and judge, rather than jump in and post
I have looked at the evidence, and cant see any cause to call someone a - "very strange individual"
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3 hours ago, Pinny said:That’s no way to talk about yourself
you can’t remember the date and event you last attended despite posting the other day you were there. A very strange individual.
if the event was 14 years ago and Gustix is an old man , what is strange about him not remembering all the details of the event ?
how does that make him a " very strange individual" ?
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On 10/16/2019 at 11:21 AM, Terry said:Never gonna happen. They're liked by the TV companies and most fans.
I much prefer Nige and Kelv to the monotonous commentary from Dave Goddard on free sports.
I quite like Dave Goddard & Freesport , but find Nigel & Kelv okay but a bit shouty
you cant please everyone
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31 minutes ago, gustix said:I sympathise with your thoughts Sidney the robin. But why should British speedway have been compensated because of the change?
I am probably wrong, but seem to remember something about British speedway getting a share of any profit from Wembley world finals ?
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Pride Month
in Speedway News and Discussions
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You seem to be automatically assuming anyone White + Middle aged ,must also be - Racist + Homophobic
( How do you even know forum users are White , middle aged ? )
And what's wrong with being " stuck in their ways " , if they are good ways
Plenty of young people also " stuck in their ways"
- automatically assuming - Old Fashion =Bad
New Fashion = must be good
Isn't Age discrimination just another discrimination like racism , homophobia etc.
You argue against one form of discrimination , while using another form of discrimination