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...at Rzeszow, in the Polish third level league competition...make of it what you like

I am surprise that you still got yours, because I already went bald Seriously though, I wonder why do you bother being here. Everyone is eager here to put their views accross. That's why we are here.

It's imposible to damage something that is already damaged.

What a pity...I would love to be acquainted with the things you could dispute...even if it would take all afternoon

The BSI Company is a private company limited by shares incorporated in the United Kingdom under the Companies Act, The company had no employees during the current and preceding year. No employees??? Is that a bad thing ?...and if it is tell me why?

If BSI really wanted to show they were boss and put Poland in their place they'd run GPs on Sundays, Well, if they are THE Real Boss why don't they do it.. I wait to see it... To do it they would have to pay more in their tvelve rounds than the world top riders get by riding in the EkstraLiga... .... not Saturday, a day that British Speedway used until the GPs come along and stole it. and why the British Speedway allowed Saturdays to be stolen from them ? Tell me, why ?

Perhaps the text was for you too long to read and you did not understand it... It was not about the feeding and bog rolls. It is about BSI being stuck up, about their absurd bans, constant complaints, and nitpicking, just to prove to the Poles that they belong to the third world. It is about the fact that the BSI have been full of arrogance, and disrespect for the Poles. that they (BSI) regarded themselves as infallible promoters, saviours of the world's speedway, who must be served by a group of subjects – simply speaking they were giving impressions as being a better species of people , who had all the brains, were cleverly manipulating their position and used it in a disgusting way. Seems to me to be a lot of moaning about nothing. If you think that way then you surely did not understand what this text was about.

Well, the same happens at any round of SGP or SWC. Have you seen there any advertising that is not approved by BSI?

The advertising space on riders kevlars has been disputed for some years now. According to some info kevlar's advertising space value can be as as high £210K per season, and the whole amount goes into rider's pocket So hardly anyone is going to give up on this. Obviously there is a conflict of interest here, and some kind of comprise would be best option. Polish clubs and the EkstraLiga are limiting riders freedom on signing contracts because they have to look after their big sponsors interest. The point is that the clubs sponsors are paying huge sums of money and cannot afford (allow) individual riders to advertise their competitors. It is therefore natural that the authorities of PGE Ekstraliga will not allow any competitor to be sponsored by Energa or Enea. ( all three brand names are Poland's energy providers) . Every year PGE pays a few million into EkstraLiga account and expects full loyalty. Similarly, in the case of club sponsors who spend several hundred thousand zloties annually, and in return are assured stadium advertising board and riders' their logos on kevlars. In their opinion, there is no place for the competitor's logo on the same kevlar and stadium. source: sports.pl

According to sports.pl Holta signed his contract with Torun yestarday. (disregarding his fellow riders stance on the new restrictions) Would you mind quoting the source of your info. Where the figures come from?

In 2017 season Polish EkstraLiga attracted on terraces 633 086 fans in 65 meeting. On average, one meeting was attended by 9 739 fans. When it comes to every speedway league meeting that has taken place in 2017 in Poland then the figure is over one million spectators, or 1 050 530 to be precise, (in 180 meetings) .That makes on average 5 836 spectators at every single League meeting in Polish speedway. source: sportowefakty.pl

Polish Speedway Ekstraliga is facing a problem. World champion Jason Doyle, former champions: Tai Woffinden and Nicki Pedersen plus Matej Żagar, Maciej Janowski and many other world top sriders have not signed and do intend to sign new season contracts in the present shape. Yesterday (4th of November) riders have met in Bydgoszcz, where they set up an action plan. - We came to an agreement on lot of things. But I do not want to talk about details, because I belevie our speedway authorities should be informed first, "said Krzysztof Cegielski, head of the" Methanol " (Speedway Riders) Association. Riders do not like the new speedway regulations for the 2018 season published on 1 November by the PZM, Polish Motoring Association. They claim that these new regulations are extremely harmful to them. They impose additional penalties while limiting their freedom in individual advertising contracts. - I do not see any rider who would be willing to ride whilst these regulation are in force . It is true that riders have agreed terms with the clubs, but on 1 November, when the rules came into force, they were completely taken by surprise and shocked. There are additional financial burdens for them, which have already exceed their potential - Cegielski said earlier. At the meeting in Bydgoszcz the riders agreed that the new contracts will not be signed at the moment. Even those who have long-standing contracts such as Patryk Dudek, Bartosz Zmarzlik and Piotr Protasiewicz do not intend to sign annexes to contracts in which there are controversial entries. Polish speedway authorities are somehow surprised because according to them not much has been changed - No financial burden was imposed on riders, and nothing has been changed on financial conditions acording to which they compete - Ryszard Kowalski, a spokesman for Polish Speedway EkstraLiga. source: sports.pl

In the same article poblished in pokredzie.pl Josh Gudgeon who is Monster's speedway expert, as well as Greg Hancock's team member said this: In Poland at every step there is a talk about the sport and financial gap between the two leagues (EkstraLiga and Nice LigaZuzlowa. In the UK it looks quite different. And paradoxically - this is not good at all. "I think the combination of several factors, such as BSPA's policy, low wages, weak leagues, and a small number of top riders, has led to a drop in levels. There is not much difference between the two leagues. Sometimes in the Premiership meeting there is one, at the most – two riders who do not ride in the Championship League, . So it's easy to see a closed circle – there are not many fans on terraces, because the product is weak, and it is weak, because it lacks money. In order to develop, you have to spend and the British clubs focus primarily on cost cutting and lowering the level of competition, and in return expect fans to pay the same amount. Why would they pay the same for a worse product?" Josh Gudgeon asked rhetorically. "One of the major problems is that, unlike Sweden and Poland, our leagues ride always on different days of the week, which discourages top riders. In these two countries (Poland and Sweden) the riders know they have 18 matches on the same day and in England there are over 40 league meetings, all on different days . Why Tai Woffinden, or Greg Hancock, for example, would have wanted to ride so often, always on different day and for a smaller amount of money? The leading league must be for leading riders and have one day (Monday) when meetings are held. The meetings must also be attractive to them, so they should not race with youngsters who also ride in the National League - it's as if Cristiano Ronaldo had to play against a junior team of under sixteen. On the subject of “men in suits” (the BSPA), Josh Gudgeon added his three pennies. The BSPA was talked loudly about this season due to the large number of penalties and suspensions it has imposed (Chris Holder salutes). In Poland, the president of Ekstraliga, Wojciech Stępniewski, is also often criticised for managing a club in the past. In UK there is no room for guesses and potential connections , because these ... are obvious. Among other BSPA members there is , Keith Chapman (King's Lynn), Rob Godfrey (Scunthorpe), George English (Newcastle), Damien Bates (Leicester and Sheffield) and Colin Pratt (Swindon) . - Why BSPA works in a bad way ?, because there are people in it who are focused only on their clubs. It's not their fault, because they have to take care of their own interests. But there are too many people who do not think ahead. Every year, it's just about saving and spending less and less, how this suppose to help you grow? Our goal is only to survive the year, there are no long-term strategies. For example, what are the plans once this season is over? How do we want to convince Woffinden, Dudek, or Janowski, to ride in the UK? No one is thinking about it, our people in power are only happy to survive the next month or a year, not thinking about prospects and future. There should be independent people in BSPA who are not affiliated to any club. We need young, forward-thinking activists who are familiar with marketing, social media and promotion – our sport must follow current trends. Nowadays, it's not enough to hang a poster, you need a strategy, " said Josh Gudgeon. And what about the world speedway? What perspectives do we face for our sport ? Is there any possibility of expansion beyond Europe? - Yes, I think there is a chance to win big sponsors. There are already a few, but it would be great if their support was a bit bigger. For example, Red Bull - generally supports many great competitors, but in the case of speedway it does not go in expansion outside Poland. If more Grand Prix rounds would be outside Europe, more global brands would be interested in sponsoring. If we had a GP round in the United States sponsored by Monster, then Red Bull would probably want to get involved. At this time the Grand Prix takes place practically only in Europe, so it is only for the European Companies to make sense of the GP series. If I was a representative GoPro, for example, why would I sponsor speedway that is only active in Europe, since I can advertise in sports that have a global reach? Imagine the Grand Prix being held in the United States, South Africa, Dubai, etc. - then there would indeed be competitions of a great scope, and the sponsors would have noticed it. Maybe we will never reach Formula 1 or MotoGP level, but why not the MXGP . To do that however, more rounds are needed outside of Europe, not just one, "added Gudgeon.

Interesting point... Peter Oakes recently gave his views to Polish website pokredzie.pl what needs to be done in British speedway to revive it. - It is hard to disagree with the fact that the British speedway is in crisis, which began some time ago. Many people think that if they do not make radical changes and reforms, within five years the speedway in the UK will turn into a semi-professional sport, the first time since it arrived here in 1928. There are many problems, but one of the most serious is the lack of fans on the stands and particularly the younger generation of fans. I would like to see teams operating on the same rules as in Poland and Sweden, restriction for riding in two-leagues (except for riders under 21 or 23), restrictions in using “guests”riders and a much more restrictive approach from the Speedway Control Bureau.Only when it is necessary. Although the television pays the clubs to share about a million pounds a season, not even a penny is invested in infrastructure or marketing. There is no big sponsor for the whole league, and the vast majority of clubs are not supported by large, nationally known companies, "said Peter Oakes. Assessing the potential of young Britons is always difficult, because many do not have the will to win and self-denial. We have athletes who have won gold medals in 125cc and 250cc (Kyle Bickley and Leon Flint) competitions, but too often they do not achieve anything more. They are more busy with girls, and are happy with themselves, instead of working hard to become real riders. Many people in the UK believe that we have the best young riders in the world, and just look at the results of the youth competition to see the gap between us and Poland and Australia. Robert Lambert is a true diamond and I hope he will ride the Grand Prix by 2020, but it is difficult to predict how others will develop. We have a lot of cross-country competitors, like Craig Cook and the Worrall brothers, but if they want to reach the level of Tai Wofinden, they have to ride in the Ekstraliga. Too many of our riders are only focused on riding in England, and if that does not change, then the UK world class riders will happen accidentally . You already have four or five potential world champions like Janowski, Dudek, Zmarzlik, or even Pawlicki. And the talents like Drabik and Woryna are in the pipeline "noted Oakes. - I fully understand the behaviour of Tai, because he wants to win, both individually and as a member of the national team. At the moment, he simply does not believe that all matters around the team GB are handled in a professional manner. Since 1989, when we have won for the last time the World Cupt, the United Kingdom had three world champions: Gary Havelock, Mark Loram and Woffinden, while Poland at the same time won nine World Cups and won only one individual title. This shows that it is primarily about managing the discipline and not the number of talents. I'm sure Tai will return to the team if he is confident of its professionalism in diet, nutrition and equipment, "explained Peter Oakes.

I disagree...would you say the same thing about the world title. In my opinion winning the national title means that a particular rider was the best rider on the day (out of 15 others) The same was possible to say when we had one day world final.

You're right! Ostafinski is nothing but a JOKE link for English speakers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0CD4vq1HnE

I value your above opinion...but the exchange started when you said that "Madsen has never done anything to suggest he would be competitive at GP level" My reply was that he has, and I backed it up by saying that in the 2017 EkstraLiga averages is ranked at no. 4.... (before Jason Doyle), and that proves to me that he can mix with the best.

Don't make me laugh. Of course he wasn't...and you should know why.

And Madsen has never done anything to suggest he would be competitive at GP level. Madsen is no.4 in Polish EkstraLiga 2017 averages...in front of Jason Doyle, etc., Why performance in SWC should determine SGP wild card for this or other rider. Tell me why. In my opinion performance throughtout the year in the world top three leagues (Polish,Swedish,Danish/British(?) competion should be taken into consideration

Bartosz Zmarzlik has been named as the 2017 EkstraLiga best Polish rider. In the "best Polish rider" category he picked up 37.09 percent of the speedway supporters votes. For comparison, the second ranked Maciej Janowski picked up eight percent less votes. For the 22-year-old this is the second award in row . A year ago, the Gorzów rider also won supporters award as the best Polish rider. "It's a great honour for me. I'm very happy and thank all the fans for my votes. I am doubly satisfied, because for the second year in a row I won this award. Zmarzlik said on Radio Gorzów. The Gorzów rider finished this season with a CMA of 9.50 which placed him at the top of EkstraLiga averages.

Bartosz Zmarzlik has been named as the 2017 EkstraLiga best Polish rider. In the "best Polish rider" category he picked up 37.09 percent of the speedway supporters votes. For comparison, the second ranked Maciej Janowski picked up eight percent less votes. For the 22-year-old this is the second award in row . A year ago, the Gorzów rider also won supporters award as the best Polish rider. "It's a great honour for me. I'm very happy and thank all the fans for my votes. I am doubly satisfied, because for the second year in a row I won this award. Zmarzlik said on Radio Gorzów. The Gorzów rider finished this season with a CMA of 9.50 which placed him at the top of EkstraLiga averages.

SportoweFakty.pl reports: Gdansk's speedway boss, Tadeusz Zdunek, last Sunday, after the EkstraLiga decisive promotion/relegation battle revealed that in the week preceding the meeting his riders were getting strange proposals. Over time it became apparent that Kacper Gomólski got an offer from one of the Torun club sponsors -, I.e. PLN 100 thousand and a contract in Toruń, in exchange for poor riding . The corruption department of the Provincial Police Headquarters in Gdańsk has already taken over the recording with a corruption proposal. The first witnesses were also interviewed, including Mirosław Kowalik, Gdansk's team manager. There is also the first detainee a 40-year-old man. The event took place on Tuesday. The police does not want to reveal even the man's initials. It also does not confirm whether it is a sponsor who came up with a proposal to the player. According to the official statement, the detainee faces up to 8 years in prison

sportowefakty.pl described this as: - In a "derby" event, this is the lowest attendance figure for 9 years, and the lowest home attendance figure since 2014.

You're correct in guessing that. Even second place is a failure. What counts is the win.

Only Falubaz !!!!