DizzAssStar

Hope you get a great crop of Lemons this year.............. cos you are sure going through existing stock at a considerable rate of knots!!!

So what you are actually saying is that Rathbone thought he had a hold over the whole Premier League ................... until KC called his bluff ! Looks like Rathbone really had the interests of UK speedway at heart ...........................NOT!

SO if it wasn't collapsing who else was going to buy ................ and if they ever existed why didn't they? Answers on a blank sheet of paper please! Yes you knew EXACTLY what I meant (notice the spelling) and you weren't asking ............. you were telling me.

KL are in "this alarming mess" on account of Alex Brady pulling out (don't know the circumstances so won't speculate) .........KC has again picked up the s.....ty end of the stick as opposed to KL speedway immediately closing the doors. Time you opened your eyes ................. Tomalin has SAVED NO-ONE. If it's all so simple get yer cheque book out buy the whole enterprise and put matters right............. you'll be sitting on a goldmine!

Why didn't he then..................... seems like yet ANOTHER saviour thats no where to be seen when the chips are down?

Being bloody mindedly picky does you and your stupid argument no favours whatsoever.................... you know EXACTLY what I meant when I used a "general term" of a "couple of years ago" as you full well know I was referring to the point when KC took over the reigns at P'boro and effectively prevented its collapse at that time. NOW show me your list of those willing and able to take it on at THAT time?

Didn't realise that the "equation" was up for manipulation so as to embrace any point of view? People do whatever they choose to do .................. BUT when speedway pretty much disappears in UK (apart from a bit of amateur stuff) then don't moan! I'm (almost) ashamed to admit that I hardly bother with live speedway nowadays (so I'm handing you ammunition) as its in such a bad way here in UK and I have extremely fond memories of how it used to be through the 70's and early eighties............... time to move on, I'm afraid that nothing lasts forever (sadly)!

Simple ....... provide me with a list of would be promoters that were about to pick up the batten when P'boro speedway WAS about to fall off the face of the Earth a couple of years ago? I think your answer will be a blank sheet of paper?

Whilst I don't disagree with what you say, lets look at the equation from another perspective:- Capability + Lack of Involvement = NO speedway (simply put ...... those with "capability" aren't [now] interested in speedway otherwise they would be involved?)

Were you born stupid or is it something that has progressed with age? You and two or three other Panthers idiots (apologies in advance to the decent P'boro supporters who thankfully are the vast majority) have taken every opportunity that you've been able to engineer over the past several months to blame KC for everything you can conjure up in your tiny minds! I'll be the first to agree that KC don't get everything right (no one does apart from you and your like)............... but make no mistake there would be NO speedway at P'boro OR KL without him.

This, from someone who IS IN THE KNOW says it all ........... nicely put Chris

You are so generous when it comes to giving away other peoples assets !!

What I'm saying is that people are selective in what they tell you .............. not necessarily a case of telling bare faced lies but rather the omission of some selected information can radically alter the context of practically any issue. Hence my comment about hearing both sides ............... more often than not the whole truth often lays somewhere in the middle (having spent 30+ years as an investigating officer I have plenty of experience listening to "versions" of events............. thankfully now retired).

So ...... like I said, you heard one side of the story ...... you should change your username to Mr Gullible !!

So basically you've heard one side of the story!

I take it, from your inferred personal knowledge, that you were actually present whilst said pay negotiations were taking place?

ERR ....... no he had four stright wins ...... perhaps you should watch closer (Results don't lie).

As you say ....... 100% correct according to rules............. so the decision is exactly that 100% correct! This was probably the most undeserved away win that I've ever seen ................. it's all well and good that Dickson states that KL benefitted by the TS in Heat 14 ....... bottom line is that KL woud not have needed it ............. it was obvious that the Leicester lot couldn't get anywhere near Laguta therfore most likely outcome....................................... Heat 13 3-3 (Laguta to win) Heat 14 (as programmed) 3-3 ..... Jorgensen got a paid win as it was! Heat 15 5-1 to KL courtesey Klindt & Laguta .......... final score (should have been) 45 - 45 ! Anyway it's all academic ............ KL's match loser was Erik Riss (as I thought would be case as soon as he was announced as guest).

Slowly dying ..... yes absolutely, but not just over the last 5 - 10 years as many now seem to think ! Take a look at how many teams were competing in DIv 1 and 2 around 30 - 40 years ago ....... British Speeday had its "time in the sun" during the 70's - 90's and has unfortunately been in a state of decline ever since, soon to be nothing other than an amateur sport in UK.

About on par with your lot then

Btw ..... you've mispelled your surname (just remove the T).

If.........If.........If......... ????? Yeah right ........................... IF KL had scored more they would have won............. but only IF the moon was made of green cheese! Kerr was absolute rubbish for KL because he had become too comfortable (complacent) with his "guaranteed" team spot year in year out .............. dropping him acually woke him up!

Absolute rubbish .............. the "old" team lost at home to Sheffield by very nearly the same margin only 5 weeks ago! (KK 9pts .... same as Artem & S Lambert (guest) 4pts ... same as Thomson)! Problem with KL is Jorgensen, MPT and Jakobsen who are all massively underperforming.

Tbh, I've no major life issues (that i'm aware of) ..... but it does make me laugh looking in at a bunch of mature adults working themselves into a frenzy over issues that they have no control and in which they have no say. It was actually your earlier post that triggered my reaction and you pretty much make the same point above eg....... go away (polite version) happy clappers your opinion don't count as it doesn't concur with mine (bit odd from someone who also states people are entitled to an opinion??) Four or five of you can stamp your feet as much as you like .................. not getting you very far is it?? As for "rights" you should realise that your ONLY given right in this matter is:- pay your admission money watch speedway (in safety) and go home........ The End. (Of course you also have the right not pay and not attend?). If i'm honest, I suppose it's probably this "I've got rights" issue (not just speedway but across the board) that winds me up most (possibly a throwback from my career days when people threw that in my face on a regular basis...... only to be shown otherwise) ....... point being if you've got all these rights why not enforce them?? The bottom line is that "Premiership" (by name only) Speedway is finally done for in the UK (writing has beeen on the wall for a few years now) ........ Poland completely and utterly rule the speedway roost now and top riders will certainly want to look after the goose that lays the golden egg (who can blame them). If things go the way they appear to be going, 2024 will be one (not so big) championship level league for riders that are up and coming, those that will never make the big time and also those big names whose best years are long behind them! (apologies in advance for stating the obvious ....... I believe that most punters are already aware of this).

I'm not asking for applause (or anything else) ....... however you and a few others on here should realise that there are more important issues in life rather than throwing daily tantrums and callling others "happy clappers" on account of them not being in such a frenzied state (they too are allowed opinion ........ or probably that's not permitted if it doesn't concur???). The vast majority of the latter part of this thread is nothing to do with the potential "demise" of Panthers ......... it's more about a small group of individuals stamping their feet and demanding to know what's going on about a new No1 ......... then, when no news is forthcoming, blaming everyone under the sun for allegedly doing nothing (how do you KNOW they are doing nothing??) followed by another round of daily tantrums. With regard to the demise of Panthers (and btw no one wants to see that) you can count yourselves lucky (my local track disappeared 35 years ago!) and if you don't like what's being currently served up then walk away.................................. LIFE goes on !!!