david_rowe
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5 hours ago, Chris116 said:The BSPL website really does its best to hide information. They put up a preview of a meeting but if it is rained off they simply delete the preview with no information as to why. This means you have to go to the fixture list to find out if the meeting is postponed or if it is simply the internet playing games. Back when Nigel Pearson was doing most of the site the preview was always replaced by a short message say the meeting was postponed for whatever the reason was and any new date if one had been agreed.
Can someone explain in words of one syllable to BSPL that they are supposed to make it easy to follow what is happening or are words of one syllable to complex for them!
Just to clarify this, the policy regarding how postponed fixtures are displayed hasn't changed for many years, although the presentation is slightly different this year since the new website came online prior to the start of the season.
I took over responsibility for BSP website editorial a number of years ago now, and one of the things I was keen to bring in was that we would show a separate news item previewing (and subsequently reviewing) every fixture individually. (You may remember that in the very old days, the updates tended to be 2 brief news items per day, and the reason for that was the content was tailored to fit in with the space requirements of Ceefax/Teletext).
It's always been the case that if a meeting is postponed, the news item is removed and there's then a separate section on that front page where the fixture is marked as POSTPONED, along with any other relevant info, which would typically be the re-arranged date if available. As mentioned above, it looks slightly different now to the past when it was simply a text box showing results, but that information is still on the front page when a meeting is postponed.
The news item previewing the meeting is obviously removed, as to leave it there would cause confusion, and personally I wouldn't want to see separate news items reporting meetings being postponed, especially in a week like this! Individual clubs, of course, would be putting postponement news items on their own websites, but on the BSP site it is reported on the front page down the fixtures/results section on the side, which has always been the case.
We've worked over the years to add a huge amount of information to the BSP site - items such as official meeting scorecards, Green Sheets, match-by-match averages, pics from the previous night's meetings rather than standard press day shots, to name a few, but we're always open to suggestions on ways in which it can be improved. We'll look all aspects of output over the winter and happy to receive e-mails to the press office with any feasible suggestions for what you'd like to see in the future.
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3 hours ago, Midland Red said:He’s head of Sky Blues in the Community - that last word could carry so much weight against the speedway/stox campaign
After seeing this letter we arranged an urgent meeting with Dave Busst, which took place last Monday.
He has since clarified his comments to the planning officer.
The position remains that the football club do not support the application.
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8 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:Never directly. Certainly not the like the lengthy lecture we got on the subject of the pairs competition when it was rightly criticised for being a pointless addition to a crowded international schedule. There was a lesser case this year. I've comments such as "We have to thank One Sport for their superb organisation ". I can't recall ever having heard BSI being mentioned by Pearson & Tatum.
I haven't heard this kind of endorsement in other sports that I follow from the commentary teams which should be there to serve the viewer and channel, not the event organisers.
No doubt there'll be another lecture to come in due course.
Bias takes many forms. The job of a commentary team is to report on what they observe, not be spokesmen for the organisers.
You didn’t enjoy the Pairs? I’d never have guessed!
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14 minutes ago, foreverblue said:Because they are a bit behind the times!
Because the press office hadn’t been informed of the change.
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31 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said:Was this meeting ever going to be on ?
No press releases leading up to it on both teams websites
no preview in BSPA site
Didnt even know who the guest's were for going to be for both sides
The meeting was previewed by the BSPA press office this morning but was taken off the website following the postponement. We had received press releases from both clubs.
Glasgow had declared Anders Rowe guesting at reserve; Scunthorpe had Cameron Heeps for Jake Allen, and Jack Smith at reserve.
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44 minutes ago, moxey63 said:What an idiotic comment. If we had the same views like that, why bother buying Speedway Star in the first place? Last year, I could have found instantly in the mag why the match was abandoned, now I can't... unless I crank up the internet. The mag is supposed to offer us, the buyers, all the information at our fingertips. As I have said, I keep my copies for reference. So now the mag doesn't offer match reports, race times or why matches are abandoned, but it's alright with some... because it's on the Internet and the Star is out of date anyway.
Meanwhile, in the same mag, I can find out what celebrity I've never heard of actually quite likes speedway. If I was that bothered, a few clicks and I could have found out who they were.
Philip Rising, I think your dead horse has been flogged to its current state. With views like this, even cutting match reports may not save it. Damned if you do....
But it does clearly state why the match was abandoned, at the bottom of page 11.
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32 minutes ago, adonis said:I never asked that very nice person to get involved in a debate I was having with one of his cohorts . who seems to think its quite acceptable to post utter nonsense and then start making accusations that I have some hidden agenda , have a look at his posts throughout this thread . not a word about coventry speedway , just bile about his hatred of Mick Horton , I dont know about you , but for me coming on here as backup to a hypocrite like that is not Very NIce at all .
Sorry Simon but you aren’t having a debate with any of my “cohorts” here.
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45 minutes ago, adonis said:What makes you think .anyone would want to discuss anything with you , are you so deluded that you think you are all that important
No, I’m not remotely important in the grand scheme of things.
And I’d rather be deluded than many of the characteristics exhibited by the postings under both your current and former aliases.
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1 hour ago, adonis said:I find it odd the campaign group have no interest in the bees riding in NL or at leicester , and since the backtrack from initially being against the Bees at leicester have said on more than one occasion .it's up to the individual whether they go to leicester and support the Bees or not , it will not affect what they are doing , so why are you on a Coventry bees NL thread in the first place , I'll tell you something which may be to your benefit , if you are going to get defensive and start attacking everyone who doesn't see things your way ,you'll pretty soon find you are losing support . quite frankly your attitude towards anyone not seeing things your way does your cause no favours at all , you want to dig your heels in and make enemies of people you should be garnering support from fine , have a bit of integrity get on with your campaign and leave others to their own opinion
Thanks for that, Simon.
Incidentally I’ve been at all but two of the “home” meetings this season.
Happy to discuss things personally with you any time. You’ll find me around plenty of tracks.
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50 minutes ago, adonis said:once again a load of unfounded opinion from you . I gave you ample opportunity to substantiate any one of your claims , but you could not . .now it's blatantly obvious to anyone reading these forums that you have a major attitude towards Mick Horton and his attempts to keep the team together while any other avenue gets explored , I would suggest that SCS find themselves another mole to champion their cause on these forums ,because your conspiracy theories , unsubstantiated claims and your desire to see Mick Horton and Coventry speedwayfail , are casting a bad light over them . I don't have any problem with what SCS are doing as long as it's not undermining someone elses efforts . Mick has offered to work with them and that has fell on deaf ears , could that be for fear ,that they may lose favour with one or two sad,bitter and pathetic souls like you , it's ironic that you accuse me of an intense dislike of anybody , take a look back at your own recent posts ,and then get your own house in order before you invent any more theories .
Again this is totally untrue.
The Campain Group have no moles on the Forum.
We are happy to post under our own names.
Unlike yourself.
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3 hours ago, adonis said:Dont Forget changed their name from Save Coventry Stadium to save Coventry speedway after they appointed themselves defenders of the realm
Simply untrue.
Very happy to meet you in person and explain it, but of course that would mean you revealing your identity.
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16 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:Not the same without team eport 200.pl (sniff).
Congratulations to Onesport for not crashing into the Motocross by three minutes.
You’ll be pleased to know that eKantor is an affiliated company... check their website to find out more!
Seriously, great effort by everyone there to get the track fit, and to run successfully to such a tight schedule.
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2 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:It appears that Torun have relaid the first bend. Sunday's timings are 1.30 pm parade, 2.05 pm first race, UK time. Bear in mind we switch to BST overnight so the clocks here go forward an hour. I presume CET is also switching the same night.
There could be problems with Eurosport who have live cycling scheduled on E1.
E2 has recorded motorcycling from Bangkok which could be shifted but are due to show live Motocross at 4 pm. We'll have to wait and see. I'm sure David Rowe can confirm.
Awaiting confirmation at this stage regarding live coverage Rob - we will still be out at the track, having rescheduled flights back for Monday.
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2 hours ago, adonis said:I think it's better as it is TBH , after all the trouble the group has caused , each side has it's own ideas on the way forward ( the group still favour Sandhu despite the evidence that it's mainly his fault ) and who needs a load of infighting and ego's pulling the whole thing down , If Brandon estates suss their allegiance to Sandhu , that will be another thing that will keep BE away from any negotiations
The campaign group has no allegiance to anyone, and any evidence of “all the trouble the group has caused” would be welcomed.
If I in any way felt that what was being done was not being done in a professional or respectful way I wouldn’t be putting my name to it as one of those involved - especially as I am quite openly involved in various ways across the sport.
You’re welcome to come to a campaign group meeting, you might learn something - but I guess then we might also learn your identity, which presumably you don’t want to happen.
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Full marks to KK for his commitment to the Bees' cause tonight. And ditto for turning out twice on the eve of other bookings. Good to see.
However...'unavoidably missed recent away matches'? The SEC is not exactly -- well, not exactly the GP, is it? No guest/RR for it, which is why the Bees had to go with 'junior' replacements at Leicester and Lakeside. Not having a go here, but with respect to Neil perhaps just a little too much top spin on that one.
Edit: Remiss of me not to congratulate the management on the double-header pricing.
I wrote the preview, the word "unavoidable" used in conjunction with the fact that SEC meetings took place on the same day as Coventry's away matches at Lakeside and Leicester hence he could not be in two places at once. Whereas KK skipped practice on two occasions in order to ride in Friday night home meetings. Naturally I'm an SEC fan, it may not be the GP but I'm sure it's well worth winning.
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EVERYONE except Dave Rowe and Sam Ermolenko who didn't pick upon it.
MANY apologies for that. Actually saw the very end of the pit scene but from my own view it wasn't 100 per cent clear that it was the end of a disagreement, in which case it wasn't right to talk about possible discontent.
Sadly with a TV screen not ideally positioned and several other things to monitor at the same time, it's impossible to get every detail.
General consensus afterwards was that NKI should have ridden - and I stated I would have done that - but essentially the decision was justified until Vaculik's engine failure.
Hope everyone enjoyed the meeting. The semi was as good a Pairs race as you'll get.
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If you look at my post this is what I am saying. The 2nd july has the correct averages then the 9th. is incorrect
Which is because the referee on the 9th July inadvertently used the wrong averages, whilst the referee on the 2nd July used the correct ones, even if the incorrect ones had been printed in the programme.
The scorecards on the BSPA website are posted by the BSPA Press Office exactly as they are submitted by the SCB Referee for each meeting.
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Why then did the bspa change the averages in thier report on the 2nd july but then not change the averages in thier report on thr 9th. July. come on wake up. look at the bspa reports.on the official bspa site
The BSPA didn't change anything.
The BSPA Press Office posted the official scorecard compiled by the SCB Referee at the meeting onto the BSPA website.
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Sorry but that (post 329) is factually incorrect.
Birmingham are not, and never have been, forced to use AP Media. Nobody is forced to use anyone, although naturally questions are asked if one particular website puts the entire BSPA network, whose server administrator is not AP Media, at risk - especially if other clubs raise concerns over the issue.
I have a professional working relationship with Andy Povey - can't speak for the others you've quoted but the best way to work in this game is professionalism first, pals second. Even better if you can achieve both together!
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Had an email from Peter Oakes at 2.45 yesterday and it was still on then. Maybe a cock up by teletext and/or BSPA.Just to confirm, message sent out from BSPA Press Office at 12.43pm on Wednesday:
URGENT SPEEDWAY POSTPONEMENT
SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 25
ACADEMY LEAGUE KO CUP FINAL at Newport - OFF
Brandon Update
in Speedway News and Discussions
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The company is actually Nationwide Windows & Doors of Rugby - but as with several sections of the presentation, factual accuracy was not its strongest point.