BOBBATH

To RMC: you mention "oddball,loser on edge of society,likely to have odd hobbies and interests"-I would appreciate it if you could leave me out of your postings in future!! Seriously we're about six months behind you in Corrie so will keep an eye out for Stoke sticker on Roy's car.

Good to see your name Brian Hamilton-yes gooogle to Jock Mahoney-pictures there-also go to youtube enter Range Rider TV show or Cisco Kid TV show and you can see old clips-also if you google TV Western themesongs-you get to see and hear the old intros just like they appeared on TV!!!!!!!!

I am really getting fed up with people posting jokes here-like for example. Man at suppertime sitting watching TV, hears wife calling out from kitchen"Darling what would you like for supper tonight , lamb, chicken or beef?". He responds "Thank you dear I'd like a nice piece of lamb because I am going out to speedway later" Wife calls out from kitchen "F**k you, you're getting soup. I was talking to the cat!!"

Well - in 1965 or 66 West Ham speedway was mentioned in a sketch by Dudley Moore and Peter Cook on their TV show.-it involved Dud saying he had taken a girl to WH-I understand dave Lanning tried to use it for some sory of publicity. Slade were Wimbledon fans in the 70's.

OK OK Mea mea culpa-will not mention any non speedway stuff on this site ever again-BTW anyone know what happened to Shirley Ann Field???????????

Tigerowl-thanx matt that is amazing I am sure Ray Cresp has passed away but think Rune Sormander is still with us-can anyone help???. BTW my comment "An Anorak too Far" of course refers to the second world war movie starring Dirk Bogard, Sean Connery ,Ryan O' Neill etc etc about Arnhem!!!!!!!!!!

Thanx to all-particularly tigerowl,norbold starghost etc-the list is definitely as follows( and as per tigerowl's original posting): 1 Cyril Roger 2 Phil Clark 3 Split Waterman 4 Danny Dunton 5 Arthur Payne 6 Dick Bradley 7 Fred Brand 8 Freddie Williams 9 Chum Taylor 10 Eric Boothroyd. The only possible change could be if Chunky in Illinois is right about Arthur's d.o.b. being 1923 instead of 1924. however until proved otherwise I think we have to go with the A- Z guys (Matt and Hugh) who have done so much research-thanx guys. BTW any interest in coming up with the 11th thru' 16th because then we'd have the oldest World Final of 16 riders-or is this "an anorak too far"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Chunky down there in Illinois -what is your source for Arthur Payne being born in august 1923 instead of 1924. also Vonny is your dad 84 this year or 85. Getting this list correct has become an obsession with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right and Amanda Blake was Miss Kitty in Gunsmoke..

Great footage really enjoyed it-liked the stuff on Howard Cole too-if you've got anymore erasuretim that's great and thanx for bringing it to the forum.

Yes the sidekick was Dick West but the actor's name was Dick Jones-to Jim Blanchard did they stuff Trigger before or after he died???(Sorry)

Range Rider's sidekick was "Dick Jones-All American Boy"-sort of like Bruce Penhall!!!!!!!!!!

Of course I do- also "Cheyenne", "Range Rider", "Tenderfoot" "Wyatt Earp" etc etc

Thanx for reminding me of Bob Danvers Walker-I used to love the yes/no segment-all very innocent.These shows would have been on in the mid fifties I guess just at the start of the Fundin era. Before I forget -recall"Thank Your Lucky Stars" and the girl who used to say "Oi'll give it foive"-think she was a Brummie-anyone know what happened to her??Bet she was a speedway fan!!!!!!!!

Thanx for the info Andy-I well recall Ted Moult from growing up in UK-remember 6.5 Special with Wee Willie Harris, Don Lang and his Frantic Five.Also Lord Rockingham's X1-strangely enough I googled (I wish) the organist-Cherry Wainer-still alive and lives in Las Vegas-you can see her perform on a youtube clip.

Bloody Hell -just googled Isobel Barnett and she committed suicide-electrocuted herself-also my internet wanderings took me to a site called UK Game Shows.com which covers every conceivable show and the biographies of panel members. Sorry to have taken the forum off on this tangent but am sure Norbold, Starghost and other more mature members of the forum will be interested.In fact there is a rumour Norbold that you took her out and may have googled her when you were younger!!!! Sorry will confine my future postings to such arcane matters as the World's tallest speedway rider-who WAS that again???????.

Hi RonButler-I'm about the same age -apart from What's My Line remember "Take Your Pick" with Michael Miles etc-there should be a forum for 50's TV!! Also as regards WML-Lady Isobel Barnett got had up for shoplifting once and went to court-those toffs!!!! Like you is it my imagination or are the posters decreasing in age-they seem to be getting younger while of course we remain the same age!!!!!!

Anyway Knowle hope Jon is still alive and kicking-am sure he is

Ta Norbold -to make the list totally accurate all we need now is to know Fred Brand's bd versus Dick Bradley's. Re your point about Matt and Hugh's disc. I certainly have thought of getting it-does a CD produced in UK work on our appliances here(as you can tell I am a techno peasant).?? Also like many I am more comfortable with print-just opening and flicking thru' a book etc. vs. going to computer, loading it in and then scrolling around each time. I find print much more user friendly, riffling thru' pages etc etc.. I can see though that this would open the way to printing off piles of pages and undermining all the research done(and it is a great job). Having said that I had wondered whether Matt/Hugh would be up for something like this-say sell a page contining a rider you are interested in for I don't know 20 p say and having a minimum order of 20 pages. Mail them out charging people for p. and p.-20p might not be the right amount and perhaps the min. order should be higher. I would probably be up for that altho' I realise over time it would cost me more than the disc-however I would be prepared to pay for the perceived convenience to me-and who knows it might generate another income stream for the guys .Perhaps restrict it to overseas clients if indeed there is a problem with CD applicability.Just a thought and I recognise it doesn't have much to do with the thread.

#2 is either Phil or Arthur-Split must be #4.When was Phil born,?? Arthur was born in Aug 1923 apparently

Ta much Norbold-anybody know bd of Fred Brand-starghost?? anybody??-btw Vonny if you are Dick's daughter wish him Happy Birthday from me at end of the month- a great rider and a great gentleman.

Thanx Vonny

OK OK great conversations but does anyone know the actual birthdates of the 10 guys listed in my Nov 5th posting??(BTW for any Aussies out there-we had our first snowfall yesterday here in Toronto)

Thanx Knowle do u know where is Jon these days??-a good rider in his time also

Ok then it sounds like the list is 1. Cyril Roger 2. Phil Clarke 3. Split Waterman 4. Arthur Payne 5.Danny Dunton 6. Dick Bradley 7. Fred Brand 8. Freddie Williams 9. Chum Taylor 10.Eric Boothroyd. However can somebody confirm this by adding birthdates as a couple of these gentlemen are listed as having the same age e.g. Chum and Eric; Dick and Fred; Split and Arthur. So until we know birthdates we won't know the actual order. Sorry to be a nerd (or"anorak" as you Brits say) about this!!!!!!!.Incidentally the only survivor of the 1949 World Final(sixty years ago- hard to believe) is now Cyril Roger. For the 1950 Final(assuming Mike Erskine has passed away-BTW anyone know the answer to that?)- besides Cyril , Freddie is still with us, as are Split,Ronnie Moore,Danny Dunton and Arthur Payne. Long may it remain this way.