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I saw Timmy in his one and only meeting in 1975-think it was against BV. Speedyguy you are correct in all your comments.

I know that Nigel Boocock topped the top div. averages in 1965-but who did it in the years you missed out Rob-I think it may have been Betts or Wilson in 67 but am not sure-did Ole Olsen ever top the averages??

Can't wait to get mine here in Canada.

Sorry mate must have got it wrong-its my memory!!

No I'm sure it was the Speedway Star and think it was about 1954-56-anybody out there remember this series of srticles by Howdy.

davidba,hope if there is another opportunity for you to meet Anders you will introduce yourself-my experience is that ex-riders are real gentlemen who are always glad to know they are remembered with affection(after all wouldn't any of us like to be remembered and respected)-bet ya he'll be happy to have a chat with you-perhaps even sign your poster!!Anyway all the best.

Perhaps Bob Andrews would know-pretty sure if you contacted John Skinner who runs the Defunct Speedway Tracks website he'd know or put you in touch with someone who did,

Thanx for sharing this falkirkbandit-Howdy was a great guy-just remember the end of his riding career with Hackney I think. In the Speedway Star years ago he wrote his reminiscences about his time as P.O.W. in Japan-made a real impression on me-it was serialised over about three issues-he had a way with words as well as being a great character.Thanx again for reminding us of good old Howdy.

I think you are right Tom re Bill riding for Oz-offer of beer when in To applies to you too!!

Ask the RCMP(mounties)- they are keeping a close eye on me!!!

Thanx Ian -I'm in Toronto-but gimme a bell if you're here my # is 416-316-1935 and I'll buy you a beer (maybe two) same applies to any other forumlanders who recall Prov Lge. speedway!!!Even you Norbold!!!

Just heard from Reg Fearman who confirms that Arthur Payne is still with us.

Thanx Ian-great thread on Bill on the Monarchs site-didn't know so many of us remembered his Scottish Champ win-tho' I was off by a few years. Never got to Old Meadowbank unfortunately -tho' when in Edinburgh a couple of years ago drove by the old site -now an Athletics stadium I guess.The mid sixties were great weren't they!!

Dos anyone know if Arthur Payne is still alive??

Thanx v. much Tigerowl-was under the impression that Arthur Payne had passed- tho may be wrong.

Thanx folks the thread was indeed about oldest surviving World Finalists so it sounds like 1-Roger 2-Clarke(I didn't know that) 3 -Waterman 4 -Dunton. Interesting stuff on the oldest Champions also.

Nice story Steve Turner-what say you Norbold I reckon we should crown Harry Huntly as the tallest ever!!!!!!!!!

I agree with Norbold on this one-my vote is for Johnnie Chamberlain.

Karl Denver-other hits included Marcheta, Indian Love Call,Mexicali Rose, Never Goodbye all in 62-63-learn such interesting stuff on this website dontcha-I think I'll see if I can find anything on youtube on him!!!!!Also to IRIS123 mentioning flesh coloured tights and spangly outfits-leave my mum out of this please!!

Norbold, I am here never fear and perusing these posts with interest!!BTW does anyone recall Karl Denver the singer(Wimoweh etc etc)

Thanx Matt-have joined your website-greatly appreciate the work you guys have done-and also for answering my inquiry so comprehensively-I really appreciate that.

Just got my much anticipated autumn issue-what a great magazine it is. I noticed in the articles on Nigel, Louis and Vic their CMA's(Calculated Match Averages )are given for the years before 1965-which I thought was the first year they were calculated(by Brian Seery).This must mean someone has done a lot of historical research(these stats are credited to Matt Jackson and Hugh Vass). I think that is a great contribution to the history of speedway.THis leads me to a question-can anyone tell me who topped the NL CMA's from seasons 1946 thru 1964, and the PL CMA's 1960 thru 1964-this would be great to know-65 on I have the data.This may also throw further light on the potential GP World Champions for the years it was a one off!!. Anyway it was great to see the stats in the Classic Speedway mag-could it indeed (the CMA champions) be the subject in a further issue??

R.I.P. Louis

On the Speedway Plus website , a column by Philip mentioned that Louis had recently died-can anyone confirm??. Louis was one of the three surviving finalists from the 1949 World Final and if true only Cyril Roger and Split Waterman would still be with us.

I think Michanek would have been better over a GP series than one off-he cleaned up practically every open meeting after 73 WF-I'll go with Briggs 67, but Michanek 73