BOBBATH

The 70's were sort of after my time since I emigrated in 68-HOWEVER I did purchase some of Wally Loak's tapes-the only way you could hear riders of the fifties and sixties speak-now of course we have you tube and there is some great stuff on there-my favorite being newsreel of a Halifax v Stoke meeting of 1949(I think)where you can clearly see the riders-I can pick out Arthur Forrest and I think Vic Emms-anyone seen that clip?????And have you identified any of the riders??

correct-I think it was a great system.

what's this mean??????????

Middlo sounds like you have a valid point I'd be ticked off too-you were after my time but I recall your dad very well-look at it this way-I believe in karma-what goes round comes round, often in the most unexpected way. Get a Hindu god anyone will do-I like ganesha myself-and ask him for a favor-it worked for me!!!!!!!!!

I reckon he was Scottish

What happened middlo?? It sounds like a raw deal to me.

Anybody aout there recall DeWayne Keeter -first of the modern era-1969 I think.

Just a big thank you from me also dan2dan-these are great websites cover a lot of my era (50's-60's) and I often visit them-also good for Reg Fearman for letting his data and memories be shared with us-keep up the great work!!

How did the nasty attitude evidence itself??

Thanx Norbold-and may Louis continue to be #2 for a long time-incidentally didn't I read somewhere that his real name was not Louis Lawson.??

In lat issue of "Opposite Lock" mentioned that Cyril Roger is 88 this December-meaning he was born in 1920-I reckon this makes him the oldest living World Finalist just beating out Split Waterman-is that right folks.Also anyone have any memories of Cyril's riding days?

Reg Fearman was tall also!! Also ta much Norbold I therefore declare OFFICIALLY that Cyril is the oldest surviving World Finalist and long may he remain so!!

Hi Norbold, can you go and measure him and let me know!!!!!!!!!!!!!-seriously tho do you know if he is older than Split-I know he's taller than him

Great responses all-thanx. I recall Cyril as being a tall guy and one not to be messed with-he would have been in his forties when he retired-big question is tho unanswered-who is older and thus is the oldest living World Finalist Cyril or Split???????

I was shocked to hear Ken had passed away-anyone know when and what of. R.I.P. Ken

Amazingly I can add to this thread-when I go back to UK I try and take in a few meetings. In 1989-I visited Long Eaton(my last ever visit there) and saw them ride against Mildenhall on 17th May-Gary O'Hare top scored for L.E. with 13 pts from 5 rides 1-3-3-3-3.It was a 48-48 tie.It also showed that year to date he was third in the L.E. averages behind Keith White and Richard Hellsen. The following night I went to Ipswich (my only ever visit) and saw the Witches host L.E. In an Ipswich 59-37 win Gary didn't do as well got 6 pts from 5 rides. His riding made an impression on me and I remembered the name -so when this thread cropped up dug out my old progs -hope this helps.By the way it was an emotive last visit to Station Road -went around the town looking for old landmarks-ate at a Berni's Inn-are there any still left??- noted the old chip shop was there, but looked for and couldn't find a restaurant called I think Banner's Farmfare-used to be one in Beeston also. Have both they and Berni's gone??.

Agreed -I think we now have the definitive answer to this question-thanx for the detective work britmet!

OK folks, I am getting more and more interested in this-so I consulted that trusty and comprehensive book "British Speedway Leagues 1946-64" by Peter Morrish published in 1984. If memory serves Peter used to write in the Speedway Star about the Midland tracks-and no before anyone asks he was NOT Eric Linden. According to this book there was a Jack Scott 1st, a Bluey Scott and a Jack Scott 2nd. The latter two are the ones who have been (endlessly) discussed and their careers as outlined by britmet(for Bluey) and oddfossengen (Jack 2nd) accord with Peter's book. HOWEVER-there is a Jack Scott 1st listed for Hastings in 1948-he scored just 7 pts. that year. Bluey is shown as B.Scott throughout and is also shown as B.Scott in the Stenners Annuals of that period.Therefore my conclusion is that there WERE two Jack Scott's as discussed but Bluey was a third Scott( I don't reckon he is the Hastings rider because he is always listed as B.Scott from the getgo). I still reckon his name was Eric. Does anybody know Reg Fearman because I reckon as Bluey's old promoter at Middlesbrough and with his excellent memory and records he should know.In fact does Reg read the forum?? I will buy a beer on my next trip to UK for anyone who can solve this conclusively. P.S. to Norbold and starghost can you add anything to this???

I reckon this is a true mystery-I do not think that Bluey Scott was the other "Jack" Scott-Bluey was an Eric-I recall him very well in the PL with Middlesbrough-in fact I recall him being (I think) in the 1964 PL final when he scored I think 2 pts. as the Middlesbrough rep. I reckon there were two other Jack Scott's -lets call'em Jack 1 and Jack 2-we have been discussing let's say Jack 1 -but there is another guy who we haven't yet talked about-it ain't Bluey-trust me on this!!

Just got my copy of "Classic Speedway"(and what a great mag that is) and saw Bert had died aged 91-I recall his brother Harry more(Norwich-right starghost??) but Bert was a big name with Ipswich in the fifties, plus but not sure Exeter??

OK all joking aside I'm intereted in this-exactly who was who in the old Speedway Star it sounds like Eric Linden was everybody!!And while we are at it who is (was) John Hyam??

Actually there was a real Angus Kix-he just wrote under the name of Eric Linden.

Tiger Tom sorry didn't see you at Paris final meeting- particularly since I think I saw a rider even taller than Graham Miles there!!! Say it ain't so!!!!

You mean they were all Eric.That sounds like he was the whole mag except for regional guys like Howard Jacobi, Frank McLean, -plus of course Philip Rising and Paul Parish,I read SS thru 1960's and I now want my money back!!!!

Yes Angus Kix for one-think Eric is still around. Was he also danny carter??