BOBBATH

Well I can see Graham Warren there-but that's it-I reckon its before the Brummies went up to Div One or I think I'd recognise more of them.

Wait a minute is that George Major whose face is partially obscured standing next to Ian Williams?

Ok got Ken Middleditch, also see its Norman Strachan now-then is Eric Boothroyd the guy with the dark glasses middle of front row? Can't spot George Major tho

Isn't Bob Andrews sitting on the far right of the front row?

Is Eric Boothroyd the guy sitting down front left??Also I thought Dingle was the shorter gentleman two to the left of Bertola, help!!

I well recall Ron Sharp for Long Eaton in 65-I guess he was a veteran by then-a real trier tho'.

Nice to see Bob Andrews over from NZ-can also pick out Bertola, Pete Smith, Jack Geran and I think Dingle Brown.

I am very interested in this thread-riders like the Edwards brothers should not be forgotten-as you say yesterdaysman we should never leave things too late. Getting to Harry-I recall a picture of the Wolverhampton Prov. Lge. team on the back of a Speedway Star in 1964(recall the old black and white Stars)[Just a digression here-the fact it was black and white added to the thrill of seeing new teams at your track , because altho' you knew the team colours from reading about them you didn't really know what they looked like till you actually saw them-no colour TV or Speedway mags etc-anyone recall that ??]. Anyway in this picture-Harry -with his white hair and lined face looked about 70-when he was only in his early 40's-the effect of his POW experience I am sure(Howdy Byford as many of you know suffered the same way and serialised his memories-perhaps ghost written-in the Star). Its amazing that despite his terrible experiences he became a well known rider. Getting back to Bert -I assume Harry and Bert rode against each other many times.Would be interested if forumland folks ,from a historical point of view, felt which was the better rider of the two-recognising the achievements of both. Was interested also in the comment that Harry may have died at sea-anyone got anything to add to that??Anyway I am glad this thread was started and that their names have been brought to the forum.

I recall Harry Edwards riding for Wolves at the end of his career in 64,think he rode for Norwich also-right starghost??

I'm relying on you here speedyguy!! I recall Harry more than Bert but am very interested in him nonetheless!

Speedyguy. what was your take on Bert both as a personality(Tough guy/nice guy etc??)-his persona in the Speedway Star was a jolly sort of person. and as a rider(e.g. do you think he fulfilled his potential /good second string etc) also was he Harry's younger or older brother-I guess Bert would have been well in his thirties when you knew him but kept riding at a high level.Where did he live in later life and what did he do after riding-anybody know.RIP Bert.

I recall seeing Lex Milloy's name on a film credit not so long ago-maybe the comedy "Robin Hood Men in Tights" anyone know where Lex Milloy is now or any other movies he has been associated with.

What a shame, I think he was Harry Edwards brother(younger??)-he used to be featured in the Speedway Star a lot , seemed to be a happy go lucky person.Anyone have any other memories to add.

I think you are right Steve -"Joe" Gooddy didn't start till the 50's

Having read the wonderful memories of Waterden Road-my track was Somerton Park. I realise it was not a popular track but I have many happy recollections of the meetings there and the enthusiatic crowds -particularly in 1964 and 1965-and it was a great place then-anybody out in forumland have similar memories.I recall Alby Golden(RIP) breaking the track record; the guy we all loved to hate(Ivor Brown-God bless him); and the tremendous fan base in Waspland; Ron How of Oxford being unbeatable there ditto Jimmy Gooch and how excited we all were when he joined the Wasps. I recall when I lived in Champaign, Illinois, USA(hi chunky in Kahokia) trying to explain to my girlfriend -from Oklahoma-about the Newport Wasps. She thought it was hilarious because in the US,WASPS is short hand for White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants.It would have been like having a team called Reading RC's. I recall drinking Whitbread Trophy beer in the bar behind the stand opposite the starting gate-you had to join the Newport County F.C. Supportes Club to get in. By the way what happened to Whitbread Trophy and Watney's Red Barrel-was in UK recently and you can't buy it anymore.Happy days I wish I could bring them back-anyone out there have Somerton Park memories like this.

That is amazing-I think perhaps he had injuries earlier in his career then-perhaps at Ipswish?Coventry?When did Les pass away-anyone know??

Where was Les McGillivray when he retired-I recall him for Hackney-I thought he was injured/sick a lot so did he really never miss a British League match?-was he ever present in 1965 for example? When did Les pass away??

Has Jim passed away??

Jim has passed away hasn't he-didn't he die quite young, Stan has been dead many years I think.

No Cyril Brine did not ride in the 70's -he finished in around 1962-interesting thread this!!

Wot about Cyril Brine-did he ride in the 30's??

Ditto Jimmy Squibb I think

Didn't Bobby Dugard also ride for them a couple of times before he quit(1965)

Ta Norbold.

I think Ian must be referring to 65 the year they did the double-what was the team now,I think Ken, Sverre, Norman Hunter, Malcom Simmons, Brian Leonard and Ted Ede/Don Smith???Is that right.