foamfence 2,917 Posted March 13, 2013 Completely ludicrous notion! Monopoly is all about one person building an empire and stripping everyone else of their cash. What's that got to do with speedway? Building houses and hotels on tracks is pretty realistic I grant you... You obviously don't remember Mike Parker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldace 1,678 Posted March 13, 2013 You obviously don't remember Mike Parker. The joke went right over your head there did it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted March 13, 2013 The joke went right over your head there did it. Most of the thread has I think. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted March 13, 2013 Most of the thread has I think. Yes it has, I can't understand how so many people can be bothered about a rather pathetic (just my opinion) card game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fourentee 989 Posted March 13, 2013 I can't understand how so many people can be bothered about a rather pathetic (just my opinion) card game. What particular part of the game do you find pathetic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryce 349 Posted March 13, 2013 Yes it has, I can't understand how so many people can be bothered about a rather pathetic (just my opinion) card game. I imagine many of the thousands of attendees at Britain's gaming conventions have a similar opinion of speedway. i.e. Why be bothered? Fortunately, there's room in the world for both groups, and even for a few of us with a foot in both camps. If you're not interested in the product that's fine, but don't make the mistake of assuming that there's no market for this type of game. Many card based strategy games are available at specialist game shops across the country, and online. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted March 13, 2013 What particular part of the game do you find pathetic? All of it, but then I don't play games......And it is just my opinion. If others like it, fair enough. I imagine many of the thousands of attendees at Britain's gaming conventions have a similar opinion of speedway. i.e. Why be bothered? Fortunately, there's room in the world for both groups, and even for a few of us with a foot in both camps. If you're not interested in the product that's fine, but don't make the mistake of assuming that there's no market for this type of game. Many card based strategy games are available at specialist game shops across the country, and online. I didn't "assume" any such thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted March 13, 2013 All of it, but then I don't play games......And it is just my opinion. If others like it, fair enough. I didn't "assume" any such thing. You've assumed everything. You are labelling a product 'pathetic' yet you have no idea what it is. That's not an opinion. That's just you making something up to attack a product. Forgive me for asking, if you don't play 'games' and have no interest in games, why are you posting your ill-informed opinion regarding it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatwick Rocket 53 Posted March 13, 2013 I am a speedway fan and think this game looks interesting. Do the rules change every year?! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted March 13, 2013 You've assumed everything. You are labelling a product 'pathetic' yet you have no idea what it is. That's not an opinion. That's just you making something up to attack a product. Forgive me for asking, if you don't play 'games' and have no interest in games, why are you posting your ill-informed opinion regarding it? Because I can! And because it was actually a response to other posts.I do have as much idea what it is, as anyone else here, so I'm no more "ill-informed" than any other commenter. If anyone else wishes to buy it or play it, fair enough, that's their thing.....It just isn't mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 15 Posted March 13, 2013 Don't know. Perhaps I'll buy a copy and see what the wave of students and 20-somethings who attend games sessions think of it.Ah, a bunch of geeks slagging off a bunch of geeks Not really for me, at £5 it probably would be. So in that respect I see where JL is coming from. Charging £20+ for a speedway card game is asking for trouble IMO. speedway is a niche market, card games are a niche market. A niche within a niche is doomed IMO, sadly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fourentee 989 Posted March 13, 2013 Ah, a bunch of geeks slagging off a bunch of geeks Actually, that's me being polite... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papryk Ash 4 Posted March 13, 2013 The game looks professionally presented, which I was surprised about and the mechanics look intriguing. If they work well and offer a decent strategy, I'd consider £18 a worthy investment for sure. The potential to further customise the game with individual rider cards is something that could greatly enhance the game also. Glad you see the potential. We also believe this may vastly enhance the experience.so we've decided to take it one step further and started contacting clubs from the Polish Ekstraliga to release expansion packs with their riders. It's looking very good at the moment as we have obtained the initial permission from the first two we have got in touch with. Of course, those expansions will not be necesarry to fully experience the game,- everyone is invited to use the names without having them spelled on the cards -,but I believe some collectors will consider it worthwhile (particularly that their price will be much lower as each "booster" pack will include only 20 cards). As for the mechanics, we are already on Board Game Geek and I think I will upload the full rule booklet there tomorrow. I'll inform about it as soon as I do that. I think it must have a Frank Ebdon referee card included. During talks with the authorities of the Ekstraliga we were told that if the game is ever going to be released, we must remove a card called "biased referee" (which swung the heat's outcome one or the other player's way) - apparently it would ruin the speedway image for good . So I'm afraid no Frank Ebdon for you, sir. Do the rules change every year?! It is not that exact simulation Not really for me, at £5 it probably would be. So in that respect I see where JL is coming from. Charging £20+ for a speedway card game is asking for trouble IMO. speedway is a niche market, card games are a niche market. A niche within a niche is doomed IMO, sadly. You might be surprised if you knew how popular card games are. Just take a look at the Games Lore - UK's leading online retailer when it comes to board/card games. Just see the "card games" section - there are hundreds of them and I guess those guys are not doing it just for fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Ah, a bunch of geeks slagging off a bunch of geeks Not really for me, at £5 it probably would be. So in that respect I see where JL is coming from. Charging £20+ for a speedway card game is asking for trouble IMO. speedway is a niche market, card games are a niche market. A niche within a niche is doomed IMO, sadly. Is it? I would suggest there are many, many 'niche' markets within board/card games. The fact is, the theme is not altogether vital, if the mechanics of the game are sound and it produces a good playable game, word soon spreads within the community. Edited March 13, 2013 by BWitcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted March 14, 2013 I know nothing about this Card Game and I am not a Gamer (?). This Game would be of NO interest to me. That said, there are those who DO like this sort of thing and that is up to them. :approve: It really would be a very sad thing if we ALL liked and disliked the same things - wouldn't it? Live and let live I say. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
