Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted February 1, 2014 Lewis Rose was indeed the newcomer of the year to me in '13. Sure, his sometimes team mate Robert Lambert outscored him (and more or less everyone else!) and it was also Lambert's first season in the NL; but we all knew Lambert was going to be a very high points scorer and a performer who, if age allowed, could've gone straight into the Elite in truth. Lewis had ridden in the AJL the season before and his unexpected progress was what that development league & the NL is all about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve povey 14 Posted February 2, 2014 Nathan Greaves,with a years experience under his belt,is in for a big year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mossy666 54 Posted February 3, 2014 The whole of Scunthorpe Stags 1-7 at the EWR 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swift Saint 186 Posted February 3, 2014 Yes and all those Elite League snobs are about to find out just how exciting third tier riders can be especially in the races against each other. The Premier League missed a trick here in my opinion.Malcolm Vasey ?????? - Craftman's Post  Craftman what do you not understand about that post?  Malcolm Vasey  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whistlegang 88 Posted February 3, 2014 Benji Compton will really show his skills at Kings this year. BC will be the main man around Central Park. Jack Kingston to continue his rise to stardom. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted February 3, 2014 Â Yes and all those Elite League snobs are about to find out just how exciting third tier riders can be especially in the races against each other. The Premier League missed a trick here in my opinion. Â Malcolm Vasey what trick was that then. didnt we have 3 pointers in the pl a few years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,793 Posted February 3, 2014 Eight years ago and then it was dropped, allowing sub standard foreigners like Edberg, Nielsen, Graversen, Barrett, Lykke, Dilger, Helfer etc to ply their trade here instead. Hopefully the PL will follow the EL's lead in 2015. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted February 4, 2014 Eight years ago and then it was dropped, allowing sub standard foreigners like Edberg, Nielsen, Graversen, Barrett, Lykke, Dilger, Helfer etc to ply their trade here instead. Hopefully the PL will follow the EL's lead in 2015. It was a rule altered mid season to stop Steve Boxall and Jon Armstrong from continuing to do so well at reserve so they both then had to move into the main team. It was then ridiculously dropped for the best season and we've been back to where we were ever since. Brit reserves in all leagues should be enforced as a minimum IMO. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted February 4, 2014 Eight years ago and then it was dropped, allowing sub standard foreigners like Edberg, Nielsen, Graversen, Barrett, Lykke, Dilger, Helfer etc to ply their trade here instead. Hopefully the PL will follow the EL's lead in 2015. It was a rule altered mid season to stop Steve Boxall and Jon Armstrong from continuing to do so well at reserve so they both then had to move into the main team. It was then ridiculously dropped for the best season and we've been back to where we were ever since. Brit reserves in all leagues should be enforced as a minimum IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swift Saint 186 Posted February 4, 2014 It was a rule altered mid season to stop Steve Boxall and Jon Armstrong from continuing to do so well at reserve so they both then had to move into the main team. It was then ridiculously dropped for the best season and we've been back to where we were ever since. Brit reserves in all leagues should be enforced as a minimum IMO. Â I think you have to detach those who care only about the future of the sport from those who have to operate financial management of their clubs in perilous times and take decisions that are best at the time given their own circumstances. Without those risk takers there would be no sport at all to speak of. However, we need a carefully co-ordinated plan to move forward with greater emphasis on the use of Britiish riders who in the long run would be cheaper. Â In my view the public are tired of the type of foreigners that Bagpuss describes anyway and the advent of a great World Champion in our midst has spurred on the clamour for more Brits and better Brits. We no longer have overseas riders of any description in the National League and that is good but we need the National League to be bigger with a lower points limit and thus development opportunities to build on and latch itself to the work now done so comprehensively by Phil Morris and Neil Vatcher. Â We need National League teams in Wales and in Scotland as a must so that riders like James McBain do not have to travel 250 miles for a home match as he is doing next season. It needs planning and I hope that the Elite League initiative will help improve these matters and that they will see enough to participate more fully in the National League like Coventry, Kings Lynn etc. Â Football invests millions on development as they capture the hearts and minds of the youth of Britain to participate in their sport which at the basic level you can play with two coats and a ball. Speedway is difficult to get started in and even more difficult to make a success of. Thus it follows that we heave to nurture those who are attracted to us as participants. We are lagging behind other sports it would seem and the time is nigh where we must turn these issues around. Â I hope we can and that serious money can be directed at this opportunity whether that be from existing funds or from new sponsorship. Â It has to happen. Â Â Malcolm Vasey 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahLapworth 79 Posted February 4, 2014 Eight years ago and then it was dropped, allowing sub standard foreigners like Edberg, Nielsen, Graversen, Barrett, Lykke, Dilger, Helfer etc to ply their trade here instead. Hopefully the PL will follow the EL's lead in 2015. Blimey!! That's 3 members of the old Team Viking touring team in there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,793 Posted February 4, 2014 No disrespect to those riders but we shouldn't be giving them jobs over British lads who could do just as good a job. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berniev123 58 Posted February 4, 2014 Hope that the 14 that turn up on a Tuesday at Monmore Wood will be great to watch......win or loose!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahLapworth 79 Posted February 4, 2014 No disrespect to those riders but we shouldn't be giving them jobs over British lads who could do just as good a job. Even though I ran that team for a couple of years I do actually agree with you there Bagpuss. I think we should go further though and stop the Premier league using the same bunch of boring riders who get passed around the clubs year after year and give their places to the young British lads coming. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westhamboy66 599 Posted February 4, 2014 Even though I ran that team for a couple of years I do actually agree with you there Bagpuss. I think we should go further though and stop the Premier league using the same bunch of boring riders who get passed around the clubs year after year and give their places to the young British lads coming.Trouble is if they are EC citizens there is no way around it. Rules cannot be set to insist on British riders taking team places. Look at the attempt by Sweden to do something similar and they can't do it officially. Sad but trueFurthermore some years ago There was an agreement to have British riders at six and seven in the Pl for the entire season. That lasted only a short time and mainly due to Steve Boxalls success at Rye House the rule was ditched mid season, some help to young British riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
