spencebel 181 Posted April 13, 2014 Hope they can get it sorted. It was my local track in the 70/80s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyd 165 Posted April 13, 2014 Sounds to me that the sub-soil requires stabalizing. This is a very specialised civil engineering process and can also a very expensive one. It may need that part or all of the track requires removing and the sub-soil injected with lime / cement/ fly ash.This can only be checked by qualified civil engineers So I hope Stoke promotion have deep pockets Look up soil-stabalizing on search engines for information on this subject Having worked in construction over the years I agree with what you have said, any problem can be overcome but it takes expert knowledge and money (proberly lots of it) and most speedway clubs not just stoke would have a problem with finding extra funds for anything outside of the planned budget. I say Good luck to Stoke, I hope they get it sorted and get back on the track asap as its now one of my local tracks since moving to the midlands from down south. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Great Central 226 Posted April 13, 2014 Having worked in construction over the years I agree with what you have said, any problem can be overcome but it takes expert knowledge and money (proberly lots of it) and most speedway clubs not just stoke would have a problem with finding extra funds for anything outside of the planned budget. I say Good luck to Stoke, I hope they get it sorted and get back on the track asap as its now one of my local tracks since moving to the midlands from down south. Good points made in your post. Because the reports indicate that it is very localised, could it be ground water bubbling up in that area? The whole area must be riddled with old underground workings and if it is ground water then it could be costly to fix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trophykid 32 Posted April 13, 2014 Good points made in your post. Because the reports indicate that it is very localised, could it be ground water bubbling up in that area? The whole area must be riddled with old underground workings and if it is ground water then it could be costly to fix.The old Holditch and Silverdale Collieries were very close and open cast mining too. I hope this current track problem isn't too problematical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Great Central 226 Posted April 13, 2014 The old Holditch and Silverdale Collieries were very close and open cast mining too. I hope this current track problem isn't too problematical. I knew that mining had taken place near the stadium but didn't know any details. It must be hoped that it isn't to do with those collieries since that could be a real big issue and of course with all the winter rain, some very strange things have been happening underground this year. I am not taking sides on this issue but it sounds like all the obvious things have been tried and with good weather last week, Dave and his crew would have been optimistic of success and it must be really frustrating for them not to be able to sort it. Frustrating of course for the riders as well who are now lagging behind most clubs in fixtures run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boozer 14 Posted April 13, 2014 The Stoke circus rolls on or not as the case may be, I notice that most Stoke and ex Stoke supporters don't bother to comment anymore. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greyhoundp 990 Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) if its that bad going into turn 1, maybe the Track could be taken out onto the old greyhound Track on the home straight, then just let the stocks use the original speedway straight where the problem is. Edited April 13, 2014 by greyhoundp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New Science 1,059 Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) Lets not forget that Coventry have been in a similar situation this season. So it can happen to anyone.This seems to be speedways buzz word at the moment "Its ok because it happens elsewhere" Well its not, all you end up with is a race to the bottom .Its up to promoters to get their own/house business in order,not for fans to overlook incompetency by simply saying "oh its ok because it happens elsewhere" Edited April 13, 2014 by New Science 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 7 Posted April 13, 2014 The Stoke circus rolls on or not as the case may be, I notice that most Stoke and ex Stoke supporters don't bother to comment anymore. There arent many Stoke supporters left. I have hung in there for the last three years with the slightest hope that things could be turned around. I gave it a chance but this season i have totally had enough of the promotions antics, lies, unprofessionalism and lack of ambition. They couldnt care less who attends and who doesnt and have totally run the place down into the ground. Year by year, week by week, the fans attending has got less and less. It has got to the stage where every home meeting you expect an excuse as to why the meeting has been cancelled or put back a day. Do they think you can change your life around all the time to suite them.People go to work, have other commitments etc which have to be sorted out in advance. The current situation is just the tip of the iceberg for my reason not to attend speedway any more at Stoke.Perhaps this isnt there fault directly but when were the drains last cleaned out? Water accumulates on that first bend and doent drain away. Could this have been avoided? I would put money on it that next Saturdays stock car meeting goes ahead.I notce that even the long serving press man and announcer has also thrown the towel in this year, season ticket prices went up and they are charging for a programme this year which has been included in admission costs for years. Dont think it will be long now for the place shuts up shop for good. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCSA 3 Posted April 13, 2014 Its been beyond a joke for years down there and nothing will ever change as long as the amigos are left to ruin the place, Eddies post is spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon Hammer 576 Posted April 13, 2014 There arent many Stoke supporters left. I have hung in there for the last three years with the slightest hope that things could be turned around. I gave it a chance but this season i have totally had enough of the promotions antics, lies, unprofessionalism and lack of ambition. They couldnt care less who attends and who doesnt and have totally run the place down into the ground. Year by year, week by week, the fans attending has got less and less. It has got to the stage where every home meeting you expect an excuse as to why the meeting has been cancelled or put back a day. Do they think you can change your life around all the time to suite them.People go to work, have other commitments etc which have to be sorted out in advance. The current situation is just the tip of the iceberg for my reason not to attend speedway any more at Stoke.Perhaps this isnt there fault directly but when were the drains last cleaned out? Water accumulates on that first bend and doent drain away. Could this have been avoided? I would put money on it that next Saturdays stock car meeting goes ahead.I notce that even the long serving press man and announcer has also thrown the towel in this year, season ticket prices went up and they are charging for a programme this year which has been included in admission costs for years. Dont think it will be long now for the place shuts up shop for good. Feel for you Eddie, hope you can still get to watch some speedway, all the best for the future 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horneymikh 86 Posted April 14, 2014 I see there are 2 further stock car / banger race meetings at stoke this month and then more after this thru the year. Will these be cancelled to help get the track right for speedway? Can the track repairs take place with the car racing ongoing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neil H 63 Posted April 14, 2014 Mick, that is a good point. As the stocks/bangers don't require a good track, they could run. They ought to be cancelled to give the track time to be sorted but revenue may outweigh this. Commonsense suggests that they will do more harm than good if they race on the track as it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boozer 14 Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) The place is a rubbish hole run by a bunch of clowns, I can't believe all this crap trying to defend the fact that a meeting has been cancelled due to a rubbish track, why is it in this condition in the first place ???? Edited April 14, 2014 by boozer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike.Butler 601 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) i hope they can sort out but why on earth wasn't this recognised at the end of last season when they called off meetings?. Surely there must be someone in the wider speedway community who can at least advise them of what to do...? Edited April 16, 2014 by Mike.Butler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites