foamfence 2,917 Posted January 23, 2017 Wow ! - 42 euro for a spark plug - obviously got to be something special Not unusual. http://shop.joehughesinternational.com/joehughes/catalogue.asp?Category=IGNITIONS-%3ESPARK+PLUGS-%3ENGK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 425 Posted January 23, 2017 And unless you're vat registered, there's another 20% on top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shale Searcher 1,264 Posted January 23, 2017 Not unusual. http://shop.joehughesinternational.com/joehughes/catalogue.asp?Category=IGNITIONS-%3ESPARK+PLUGS-%3ENGK Don't forget the 20% VAT....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 425 Posted January 23, 2017 Check out Gary Ball Racing, you'll find he's very competitive on prices. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ASHTECH 44 Posted January 24, 2017 Prices look ok. A little more than my price list but that's exceptable. Most of the parts on the list are after market parts anyway, none of which are produced in Swiss. My problem is and always will be when a head breaks, con rod snaps and you need a new set of cases it will be much more expensive than the GM. I am interested to see the full price list. And although everyone is being suckered into this warranty deal, things do "wear" out as it says on the price list. You are not going to be covered by any warranty with a sealed engine that's done 200 races and the piston breaks, that's fatigue and it's racing. I can assure you that will not be covered. Again, nothing against the GTR but i am just putting my side across. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,201 Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) What parts will they use in a service after a full seasons riding will it be complete rebuilt from top to bottom? will they hone the Conrod or will it be a one new valves ,springs, a new piston or just rings ? Wonder how much a service will cost because I think you would need to completely rebuild it if you were to use it for a second season how many season will they guarantee the engine after the amount of races it once you buy second hand warranty ? Edited January 24, 2017 by mac101 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,278 Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Radical/Stupid idea alert... Has three lap races ever been considered? Most races seem over well before the last lap anyway as riders have invariably become more spaced apart the longer the race has gone, so maybe it would lead to closer racing? What it would definitely do is save 25% 'wear and tear' on engines and chassis, 25% tyre usage and 25% fuel, and maybe tracks would be less slick at the end of the meeting... And surely make cost savings which could be passed on in reduced admission....? Thus maybe getting some 'newbies' to attend (who wouldn't probably know it used to be four laps anyway).. Tin hat on time.....! Edited January 24, 2017 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,395 Posted January 24, 2017 Radical/Stupid idea alert... Has three lap races ever been considered? Most races seem over well before the last lap anyway as riders have invariably become more spaced apart the longer the race has gone, so maybe it would lead to closer racing? What it would definitely do is save 25% 'wear and tear' on engines and chassis, 25% tyre usage and 25% fuel..... And surely make cost savings which could be passed on in reduced admission....? Thus maybe getting some 'newbies' to attend (who wouldn't probably know it used to be four laps anyway).. Tin hat on time.....! not the worst idea tbh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 425 Posted January 24, 2017 Warranty won't be worth the paper it's written on, escape clause will be dirt getting through the air filter, that will destroy any engine, if you saw the state of some Riders filters you would cry,mixed with methanol drawn into the engine, it's like grinding paste. My tip would be to buy the engine using a Credit card, at least you have some protection if it goes bang. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sotonian 610 Posted January 24, 2017 Would be poor vfm at some tracks e.g less than 40secs per race at Plymouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Skid 425 Posted January 24, 2017 3 lap races, and rolling starts, no revs or destroyed clutches. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted January 24, 2017 not the worst idea tbh terrible idea imo. Makes gating even more important. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,278 Posted January 24, 2017 Would be poor vfm at some tracks e.g less than 40secs per race at Plymouth. But would all four riders still be in contention as they go into lap three most races? If so, I would suggest the punters wouldn't even notice the race time.. 20/20 cricket was thought to be a 'novelty one hit wonder', now its the most popular form of cricket worldwide.. 'Fast and Furious' is the tagline often used for Speedway, 3 lap races could do that justice.. People also often complain about no second halves due to curfews and meetings taking over two hours to complete. Less laps of racing would sort this.. And vfm perception can also be influenced massively by what happens 'off track' too, (as T20 shows so well).. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted January 24, 2017 Why not just have 15 one lap dashes?! In fact get rid of engine and make the riders peddle around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sotonian 610 Posted January 24, 2017 Why not just have 15 one lap dashes?! In fact get rid of engine and make the riders peddle around What would they be selling? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
