Help needed for April 1992 queries

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Hi

Me again.  Below is, quite a long, list of queries I have for April 1992 whilst compiling a complete 1992 Season file for the Speedway Researcher.  Please check the list and if you can help that would be great.  Thanks

1^st April

Poole vs Swindon Reserve match. Listed in Speedway Star as the Reserve Gold Cup match.  However there is also a Reserve Gold Cup match between the 2 teams on the 13^th May (with a different score).  So which is the ‘real’ Reserve Gold Cup match ?  The Reserve League match was on the 30^th September.

 

4^th April.  Heat 1 of King’s Lynn vs Swindon.  Yearbook has Lofqvist 3^rd and Brhel 4^th whilst Speedway Star has Brhel then Lofqvist.  Which is the correct order ?

 

5^th April. Heat 7 of Mildenhall vs Peterborough.  Yearbook has Whittaker 2^nd, Colquhoun 3^rd whilst Speedway Star has them the other way round.  Which is correct ?

Also, heat 6 of the Reserve League match between Mildenhall & Peterborough.  Yearbook has Clouting 2^nd Wilson 3^rd whilst Star has them the other way round. Which is correct ?

 

9^th April. The pre-season fixture list in the Speedway Star has Sheffield vs Edinburgh in the Gold Cup on this date.  There is no mention of a postponement that I can find so did this meeting take place (if not, why not) ?

 

11^th April. Due to a number of differences between the Yearbook and the Speedway Star can anyone supply, from a programme, heat details for the Reserve League match between Cradley and Eastbourne ?

 

11^th April. Due to a number of differences between the Yearbook and the Speedway Star can anyone supply, from a programme, heat details for the Reserve North League match between Berwick and Sheffield ?

 

12^th April. Reserve South League match between Mildenhall and Nottingham (Long Eaton).  Anyone know the heat times for this meeting (they are not given in the Star) ?

 

12^th April. Heat 12 Rye House vs Peterborough Gold Cup. Conflict between the Yearbook and the Speedway Star as to who finished 1^st & 2^nd.  Yearbook has O’Brien then Goodwin whilst Star has them reversed.

 

15^th April. The Yearbook has Long Eaton defeating Peterborough 51-39 on this day.  The Speedway Star has the meeting as Rained off. Which is correct ? If the Yearbook is correct then I need heat details for this match plus details of any Reserve fixture raced.

 

17^th April. Heat 4 of the Reserve South Gold Cup match between Ipswich & King’s Lynn.  The Yearbook has Savalas 2^nd & Tacey 3^rd whilst the Star has them the other way round.  Which is correct ?

 

17^th April. Oxford vs Swindon.  This morning meeting was abandoned after an attempt had been made to run heat 1.  Does anyone know the team line-ups  and who was in the aborted heat ?

 

17^th April. Heat 9 of Poole vs Reading Gold Cup match. The Yearbook has Andy Phillips as F NS (so no ride) whilst the Star has him as F EXC (counts as a ride).  Which is correct ?

Also, in heat 13 Per Jonsson finished 3^rd behind Armando Castagna & Tony Langdon – who tied for 1^st place.  No bonus point is listed for Jonsson, is that the correct interpretation for awarding a bonus point (some years a bonus point would have been awarded in this situation) ?

 

17^th April. Heat 3 of Peterborough vs Rye House Reserve League match. The Yearbook has Graham Barker as N (i.e. not riding in heat for some reason, so no ride) whilst the Star has him as F (which counts as a ride).  Which is correct (or was he F NS) ?

 

17^th April. Heat 6 of the Reserve North League match between Sheffield & Middlesbrough.  The Yearbook has Jones 2^nd & S Swales 3^rd whilst the Star has them the other way round.  Which is correct ?

 

18^th April. The Reserve match between Stoke & Mildenhall was abandoned after 2 heats. No heat details were published so does anyone have them ?

 

20^th April. Heat 10 of the Challenge between Oxford & Reading.  The Yearbook has Doncaster 2^nd & Morton 3^rd whilst the Star has them the other way round.  Which is correct ? Was there a second half (if so details please) ?

 

20^th April. Swindon vs Ipswich.  Who was Swindon’s number 7 ?  Yearbook says Boulton, Star says Elkins.

 

20^th April. Exeter vs Milton Keynes. Yearbook has Exeter’s number 8, Richard Knight, as DNR whilst the Star lists him in heats 6 & 10 (the Star, for once, seems correct – as the scorecard from the Yearbook is missing 2 last places).

Confirmation, from a programme, needed on the  scores for Steen & Walker – the Star has Steen as 5-5-1 & Walker 4-4-1 whilst the Yearbook has them the other way round.

 

20^th April. Newcastle vs Glasgow. Need programme confirmation of 1^st & 2^nd in Heat 6 ?  Yearbook has Mark Thorpe down as 2^nd and scoring a paid maximum, however Star lists Neil Collins as winning the heat which means no paid maximum for Thorpe.

 

20^th April. Rye House vs Mildenhall.  Did Jan Pedersen take a 5^th ride (a 4^th place) as per the Yearbook or not (as per the Star) ?  If he did take the 5^th ride, which heat was it in (and did he replace someone) ?

 

24^th April. Edinburgh vs Glasgow Reserve North League match. In heat 2 was McDonald excluded for tapes (as per the Star report) or otherwise not in the heat (the Yearbook just lists him as N – which could be for a 2 minute exclusion or just a simple replacement).  The tape exclusion would count as a ride, the 2 minute exclusion wouldn’t.

 

26^th April. Mildenhall vs Exeter Reserve South League match. Need programme confirmation of heat 3.  Star has Clark 2^nd whilst Year book has him as exc tapes.  Yearbook appears to have Nathan Wilson 2^nd in this heat instead.

 

29^th April

. Nottingham vs Rye House Reserve South League match.  Yearbook has Shaun Naylor riding for Nottingham whilst the Star has Mark Geary instead.  Which is correct ? 

 

30^th April. Ipswich vs Arena Essex Gold Cup.  Did this match take place on this date or was it postponed ?

 

30^th April. Sheffield vs Glasgow Gold Cup.  This match was abandoned following a failed attempt to run heat 10.  Simon Green is mentioned as having ridden in the aborted 10^th heat but who else was in it ?

 

Updated with bolding to show queries that still need to be resolved

Edited March 3, 2021 by compost
Highlighted queries still needing answers to

[arnieg 3,661]

17/4 Oxo v Swindon

Oxo: Nielsen, Carlson, Dugard R/R for Butler, Barker, Cunningham, Andersen no 8 Timmo

Swin: Shirra, Standing, Adams, Davis, Nilsen, Schroek, Elkins

Ht 1: Track very wet, four riders steamed into 1st bend, three came down, Shirra excluded, race never re-run

[arnieg 3,661]

20 April Oxo v Reading

 

I have Donkey 2nd and Morton 3rd in ht 10

 

2nd Half - Reserve League Easter Challenge

OXFORD 18 READING 17

- I can send you a scan of the completed racecard

 

[arnieg 3,661]

17/4 Poole v Reading

Ht 9 I have Phillips as FX

 

Ht 10 I do not believe it has ever been correct to award a bonus point in this situation, and none is shown in my programme

[arnieg 3,661]

15/4 LE v Peterboro

 

From 22/4 prog: "The weather was of course quite dreadful...  an early match-off decision was made at 3.30pm"

[Nodlew 15]

29th April - Nottingham v Rye House (Reserve League)

From marked programme Mark Geary replaced Shaun Naylor in the Nottingham team.

[BL65 658]

2 hours ago, arnieg said:

Ht 10 I do not believe it has ever been correct to award a bonus point in this situation, and none is shown in my programme

That is correct.  A bonus point would be awarded for the rider finishing third if his partner was placed second.  A partner dead-heating for first place is not classified as finishing second.

[oggyNZ 16]

result of heat 6

1  Neil Collins      2  Mark Thorpe    3  Tim Kornelliussen   4  Wayne Garratt     66.5

[Andrew 125]

5 hours ago, compost said:

9^th April. The pre-season fixture list in the Speedway Star has Sheffield vs Edinburgh in the Gold Cup on this date.  There is no mention of a postponement that I can find so did this meeting take place (if not, why not) ?

Sheffield started a little late that season due to work on the new fence taking longer than expected.The first two home meetings were called off.

 

6 hours ago, compost said:

30^th April. Sheffield vs Glasgow Gold Cup.  This match was abandoned following a failed attempt to run heat 10.  Simon Green is mentioned as having ridden in the aborted 10^th heat but who else was in it ?

Peter Carr,Mick Powell and Jason Straughan

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Thanks for the help everybody.

I'll update the help needed list.

Re the bonus point query - I've seen pre-1965 results where a similar situation to the one I queried did result in a BP for the rider in 3rd. So, just wanted to check.  Logically, I can't see why a rider finishing 3rd with a team-mate finishing joint 1st shouldn't get a BP as they have finished directly (the important bit) behind their team-mate.  Having said that, I can also see the opposing view and in any case it's the official postion that's important and not my opinion.  Thanks again for the clarification.

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21 hours ago, arnieg said:

2nd Half - Reserve League Easter Challenge

OXFORD 18 READING 17

- I can send you a scan of the completed racecard

 

That would be great if you would please.

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18 hours ago, oggyNZ said:

result of heat 6

1  Neil Collins      2  Mark Thorpe    3  Tim Kornelliussen   4  Wayne Garratt     66.5

OggyNZ. I assume that your result above comes from a programme ?  I'm querying what the Speedway Star (and the Yearbook too) had published. Thanks

[arnieg 3,661]

4 hours ago, compost said:

Thanks for the help everybody.

I'll update the help needed list.

Re the bonus point query - I've seen pre-1965 results where a similar situation to the one I queried did result in a BP for the rider in 3rd. So, just wanted to check.  Logically, I can't see why a rider finishing 3rd with a team-mate finishing joint 1st shouldn't get a BP as they have finished directly (the important bit) behind their team-mate.  Having said that, I can also see the opposing view and in any case it's the official postion that's important and not my opinion.  Thanks again for the clarification.

I have a programme where the two riders tieing for second both got 2 points.

 

Doesn't make it right.

 

EVEN THOUGH IT WAS THE REFEREE'S SIGNED COPY!!!!!!

[oggyNZ 16]

Yes it is from my programme. Scan if you want .