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Plymouth v Newcastle Tuesday 31st August

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6 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Put the rule book in the bin and rule No 1 should be; there will always be a minimum number of rules to adhere too; if the rules run to a second page rule No 2 should be the BSPL will work to reducing the number of rules to one page. Do we not over complicate things at times?

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THJ

Not that you haven't thought about it, but if you can only use a max or min riders average, (below 7 or above 4, for instance),,, would that only be for team building purposes and/or, what happens if riders averages go beyond the 'goalposts' during the season?

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7 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said:

Not that you haven't thought about it, but if you can only use a max or min riders average, (below 7 or above 4, for instance),,, would that only be for team building purposes and/or, what happens if riders averages go beyond the 'goalposts' during the season?

Below 7 above 2 in the second tier for team build only and if they go above 7 you've scored for that year... but at the outset the rider wouldn't be coming in on ridiculous wages or aspirations of huge guarentee's... 

Regards 

THJ

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17 hours ago, ruffdiamond said:

Not that you haven't thought about it, but if you can only use a max or min riders average, (below 7 or above 4, for instance),,, would that only be for team building purposes and/or, what happens if riders averages go beyond the 'goalposts' during the season?

 

17 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Below 7 above 2 in the second tier for team build only and if they go above 7 you've scored for that year... but at the outset the rider wouldn't be coming in on ridiculous wages or aspirations of huge guarentee's... 

Regards 

THJ

But when riders can go to court to fight a rule saying you could not drop down if your average was more than 6, and won, is a restraint of trade. How many more would fight the rules?

The riders, nowadays, have too much power( barring refusal to ride if not getting paid) in track conditions whether too wet, unsafe at al.

They can now cheat their employers & fans(Batchelor) by performing poorly to reduce their average so they can earn more riding in 2 leagues as he was not riding abroad.

They then reduce their averages(as rides in play offs do not count) slightly, once their teams are in the guaranteed play off positions, to make them more employable the following year.

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7 hours ago, IronScorpion said:

 

But when riders can go to court to fight a rule saying you could not drop down if your average was more than 6, and won, is a restraint of trade. How many more would fight the rules?

The riders, nowadays, have too much power( barring refusal to ride if not getting paid) in track conditions whether too wet, unsafe at al.

They can now cheat their employers & fans(Batchelor) by performing poorly to reduce their average so they can earn more riding in 2 leagues as he was not riding abroad.

They then reduce their averages(as rides in play offs do not count) slightly, once their teams are in the guaranteed play off positions, to make them more employable the following year.

Dont disagree to a certain extent but are we going to cow tow the the greedy few and allow the tail to wag the dog... who runs the sport the BSPL or the riders...

Restrictive Trade disputes were an arguement that rose out of being in the European union and supported by the European Charter for equal rights and opportunities and the like and since Brexit it will be a brave person who brings a legal claim for this now...

If a charter is laid out in support of a formal set of rules that are notarized and signed and backed up with good employment law practises you dont fall foul of this but as usual I have no doubt that the BSPL would write something down on the back of a fag packet call it a gentlemans agreement and then the usual suspect would pony all over it...

I suppose any system can be manipulated you just need to be as cute as those trying to manipulate the system... there is always more than one way to skin a cat... so you introduce a restricted grading system and one might slip through the net for a season for a team but not three for sure...

Regards 

THJ

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