Speedwaycrazy 71 Posted February 3, 2014 Just noted that Emil is probably lining up with Tai and Hampel this season for Vetlanda, how on earth do they afford such big names with crowds that are not massive! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pandorum 1,259 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) TV, sponsors and such like probably. Maybe the guys work cheap Makes you wonder how we manage with what we get in the UK with crowds that are not even sparse a lot of the times Edited February 3, 2014 by pandorum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manchesterpaul 447 Posted February 3, 2014 Just noted that Emil is probably lining up with Tai and Hampel this season for Vetlanda, how on earth do they afford such big names with crowds that are not massive! If you had posted this in the International section you'd likely get some knowledgeable answers from the forums Swedish correspondents. 'Ghostwalker' for one is usually well genned up on all aspects of Elitserien including financial queries. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manchesterpaul 447 Posted February 5, 2014 See speedwaycrazy i told you that you would get tons of replies on here lol. Joking aside i do remember, likely Ghostwalker?, giving some excellent details on exactly the subject of your question. I'll have a Google around later today if the man himself fails to come up with the goods on this occasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted February 5, 2014 Just noted that Emil is probably lining up with Tai and Hampel this season for Vetlanda, how on earth do they afford such big names with crowds that are not massive! The very top crop of riders get around 20k€ per meeting in Polish Ekstraleague, 5k€ in Elitserien and probably 2-3k€ in the Elite. For these sums my Elite estimate is the most outdated, Elitserien is pretty much spot on at the moment and one can only speculate on the Polish sums, but Rune Holta was getting that much a meeting five years ago... Then you should also remember, that now that Emil has gone public saying he's owed 300k By Czhestochowa, Chestochowa goes public saying Emil owes them 200k for a breach of contract and in other fines... In Sweden they are running their ship tighter and tighter, if there's a mess somewhere it's usually made public and in the past ten years this kind of news get fewer and fewer... Where as from my memory these kinds of news are more and more frequent coming from the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted February 5, 2014 Just noted that Emil is probably lining up with Tai and Hampel this season for Vetlanda, how on earth do they afford such big names with crowds that are not massive! TV, sponsors and such like probably. Maybe the guys work cheap Makes you wonder how we manage with what we get in the UK with crowds that are not even sparse a lot of the times it is a correct assumption that the attendance is not enough to finance any of the teams. However Vetlanda have a big title sponsor which puts allot of money into Vetlanda. The latest TV-deal did not bring that much money to the teams but they only have themselves to blame for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manchesterpaul 447 Posted February 5, 2014 The latest TV-deal did not bring that much money to the teams but they only have themselves to blame for that. Why? what have they done or failed to do? I'm pretty sure we get better racing than we see with the UK's Elite league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Why? what have they done or failed to do? I'm pretty sure we get better racing than we see with the UK's Elite league. Its a long story but basically clubs wanted more influence. Agreement was reached with Svemo an the clubs initiative to start the joint organization SSI and when it launched clubs backed out from their part of the financing, leaving Svemo with all the costs which was covered by parts of the tv-deal money. http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.svemo.se%2FForbundsinformation%2FNyheter%2FNyttTV-avtalforElitserieniSpeedway%2F http://www.svemo.se/Forbundsinformation/Nyheter/NyttTV-avtalforElitserieniSpeedway/ http://www.svemo.se/ImageVaultFiles/id_6502/cf_44/Styrelsen_protokoll_extra_insatt_m-te_2012-05-30.PDF Edited February 5, 2014 by Ghostwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manchesterpaul 447 Posted February 5, 2014 Its a long story but basically clubs wanted more influence. Agreement was reached with Svemo an the clubs initiative to start the joint organization SSI and when it launched clubs backed out from their part of the financing, leaving Svemo with all the costs which was covered by parts of the tv-deal money. http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.svemo.se%2FForbundsinformation%2FNyheter%2FNyttTV-avtalforElitserieniSpeedway%2F http://www.svemo.se/Forbundsinformation/Nyheter/NyttTV-avtalforElitserieniSpeedway/ http://www.svemo.se/ImageVaultFiles/id_6502/cf_44/Styrelsen_protokoll_extra_insatt_m-te_2012-05-30.PDF Thank you for all that info. The Google Translated pdf reads as; Protocol extraordinary board 2012-05-30 ( 18:00 to 20:00 ) participants SVEMO Hakan Leeman Chairman Åke Knutsson Vice Chairman Agneta Andersson Member Jörgen Hafström Member Day Hjalmarsson Member Tony Jacobsson Member Carl-Erik Sörman Member Per Westling Secretary General Stig Klemetz Chairman SSI Anna Wilhelmsson GS Coordinator agenda : Effects of serial association's decision not to meet the shareholders' agreement in SSI AB. The meeting appointed Carl -Erik Sörman to adjust the minutes , and decided to approve the minutes immediately. The agenda was approved . Subject The President has called an extraordinary board meeting on the occasion of class association decided - announced by the League Association president Borje Bellinger - not to pursue the shareholder agreement for SSI AB expressed at SSI Ltd board meeting 2012-05-23 . light SVEMO conducted in 2010 0ch 2011 a comprehensive analysis of the speedway business in Sweden where complaints are made by clubs on how SVEMO ran the speedway business. The Inquiry led to an entirely new organization . Round Brisbane Property clubs (by Series Association) and Spark Plug AB ( a company wholly owned by SVEMO ) would jointly own a company, SSI Ltd , which would replace the old organization with a Round Bane Section . SSI AB was established 1 January 2012. The intention was to increase the club's influence on the business, do the clubs involved in the decision making and, through joint action to increase the total commercial revenues to clubs and the sport. SVEMO bore all the initial costs of starting the company. new staff employed by joint decision between Serie Association and SVEMO . A budget was set up where Series Society of the stake was added to 750 000 in 2012. SVEMO part of the cost added to ca : 4th 5 million , plus was expected sponsorship revenue for 2012 is 500 , 000. The decision Serie Association now announced means that from Serie Club's page does not have to intention to inject funds agreed on 750 000 for 2012. This has an impact on how activity to be operated during the remainder of the year and for future years. SVEMO Board discussed thus primarily the form of organization you will use to continue operations . Two main options were considered: A. Returning to the previous organization where speedway and ice racing is run in a circular path section or ; B. Continue to run the business in SSI Ltd , but with changes in the imaginary part ownership and budget. discussion The Board expressed great surprise and concern about the decisions taken in the series ' Association, one discussed why one of the clubs' side now want to refrain from participation in the organization chosen to build up. It also asked if the clubs to fully understand the implications of the decision and if any clubs really endorses. Decision - SVEMO Board is not prepared to inject additional funds for operation of SSI AB. - The Board does not want to return to the old order and drive business through a Round Bane Section . - The Board of Directors recommends Sparkplug AB will continue to operate in SSI Ltd , and to consequently immediately revise budgets and implement necessary changes to ensure that operations can be driven year as now reduced budget. The Board recommends Moreover Sparkplug AB letting Hakan Leeman bring even Sparkplug ABs action before it upcoming meeting on June 4 , when Håkan Leeman as chairman of SVEMO also represents ownership side of Sparkplug AB. - The Board of Directors decides to vigorously tinued protect the current TV contract, and agrees fully behind the statement, the President submits consequences for clubs not let the TV team / producers at their venues. - The Board gives Hakan Leeman mission to bring the union , an action before the planned meeting Monday June 4th, the chairpersons of SSI Ltd , Series Association and SVEMO . - The Board Instructs GS and financial manager to make a thorough analysis of what they different scenarios may mean for SVEMO economy , and that this analysis is presented in next regular board meeting in SVEMO . - The Board Instructs Hakan Leeman asking Serie Association President to convene all clubs to an information meeting to ensure that all clubs are fully aware of the far-reaching impact of the decision Serie Association adopted . Chairman Hakan Leeman ended the meeting . Minutes Chairman Anna Wilhelmsson Hakan Leeman 2012-05-31 Accepted by mail 2012-05-31 aDJUSTER Carl-Erik Sörman Accepted by mail 2012-05-31 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
