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13 hours since the last post this thread is drying up a little time to start a new thread under another name for the same old sad ex speedway fans to go over and over the same old reasons why British speedway is crap these days.If you got fed up with speedway.then after all this time you must be getting sick of posting the same old crap over and over. Every new thread is like reading the last one for your own sake's please find something you enjoy doing and move on and leave a speedway forum to those who still have an interest in the sport.

I, for one, are delighted that Sheffield have moved up a league and will look forward to popping over to Sheffield next year supporting the Aces. It will certainly bring back memories of the what I call golden speedway yesteryears, before the Fords and Russells etc etc ruined this great sport.

will Dishington still get a runners up medal

You're right, but its never stopped other tracks in need of improvement staging international meetings. Apart from the NSS, Kent is the best stadium we have. With the loss of Stoke & Plymouth and the possible loss of Cradley, Leicester & Belle Vue it maybe that next season's points limit will be extremely low (32 or even 30) to entice other clubs to enter NL teams. With Sheffield reverting to Thursday, Buxton could come back. My only hope is if Isle of Wight decide to fold given the circumstances a role is found for Barry Bishop & Martin Widman. The innovation, foresight and enthusiasm they have put into the Warriors over the last few seasons is something the sport simply can't afford to lose.

I'm sure that the infamous letter just emphasised that they the owners were not going through to armadale. It did not say on no account should tigers fans go through. And even if it did we've still gone through in our hundreds despite it being a trick track. Can't help thinking some monarchs fans are just trying to use any excuse to justify there absence. Why not just be honest and say we don't want to see our team get gubbed. I obviously exclude from this the decent Edinburgh fans who'll support there team through thick and thin as we did in our poor years

he couldn`t get a Newcastle one Willie Dishington was wearing it

GED

Would that mean Danny and Ulrich the first two signings Dave?

Besides, why is it okay for you to insult others, but you don't like it when others respond in a similar vein? Before you act all innocent, I know of two specific examples off the top of my head. 1) You think I am basically a criminal because I watch the GP's via the LEGAL stream provided by the organisers just for people like me who don't live in the UK. 2) You had the audacity to call speedway fans who still enjoy watching the sport "insane". Really? You are the only "sane" one on here because you don't like speedway, and refuse to support it? You really think spending your time on a forum for a sport you don't like, trying to persuade others not to like it, and questioning their judgement when they refuse to agree with you, is the definition of "sanity"?

Must be Dishington, he's already working for the team.

Unfair. Barker rode really hard. Was harshly excluded (Phillips admitted he locked up) and fell giving it maximum effort.

well done to the bears.Good effort from Sarjeant him signed for next year.Not so “super”stevie lost it for Newcastle.even after the help from the ref..

Get in! UTB!!!

I heard yesterday a rumour or talk whatever you want to describe it as, that Rye House will be back in 2020 racing in the NL under the combination of Pete Sampson and Martin Hagon, be great to have some speedway in the Herts/Essex area again, Arena Essex will never return, that's for sure.

Redcar deserve this . hope they do it .... U.T.Beers !

1 Auty 2 Ayers 3 Tero 4 Jorgensen 5. Allen 6. Lambert 7 Palin

They need to stay in the same league as Newcastle Edinburgh and Glasgow as they are their local rivals with the biggest travelling supporters especially Glasgow.

Bonkers. That’s what I’m hearing.

I used to attend Ashfield fairly regualry (about once a month) but since the change of race nights its been a little harder to manage a trip through. Sun afternoons suited whereas midweek and Fri night a no go. Shamed to say was only there once this year, although rain did ruin a couple plans. If (and a big if) you go up would be good to see new teams but midweek would affect crowd levels from away fans. I know people who still hold a grudge over the famous average fixing night all those years ago. It's amazes me people still use that as an excuse to not support their team against our closest rivals.

Was this written last year and just reproduced? Or maybe the year before? Or maybe any given year over far too many years..? Cricket is another sport that relies on the weather conditions being favourable to run, therefore I am amazed they don't run all their finals in October like Speedway in the UK does.. Surely those in the ECB are missing a trick? It is truly amazing that every year the same nonsense pervades yet those who run the sport obviously see absolutely nothing wrong with it.... Maybe seeing all those growing empty spaces on the terraces will one day start to finally give them a clue. .?

That's only cause we're pumping them on a regular basis

If there is any truth in this, then it clearly shows the unprofessionalism of CVS. The individual clubs should make the announcements when they feel it's appropriate. If he has leaked confidential information it shows a complete disregard to his fellow promoters.

Well done 10 out of 10 for your spelling .. Must be allowed to stay up late because it’s half term

George promised him one by the looks of it , didn`t count on him annoying Wrighty

He tried so hard for a winners medal didn't he ?

Anything constructive to say? If not, go forth and multiply

Well done Newcastle on the night I thought we would have got battered and a special mention for James Sargeant who I give stick to in an earlier post! It’s wasn’t to be but what an effort over two legs. What’s this about a new owner?

ooh sorry to hear it

Not strictly true. He must have "some" interest, as he keeps it on in the background...

He didn't have his best year anywhere this season, particularly after his fantastic 2018, he belongs at Lynn, it's home ....

As long as it's a good meeting with both teams giving it a go as I think the points we have to pull back is just a tad bit much but you never know.. but it's going to be bitter cold tho so a hope the meeting runs nice & smooth

I presume that both sets of fixtures will count towards the playoffs as i said before not enough teams in that league either l

Wright and Riss are the key signings for next season for me ,

It's called insanity.

Have always found sarj very trying, but am going to have a ride over tonight despite being at work at 5.45 mon morn.

That's exactly the point. A so called major final being held when most of the riders have packed up for the season (Bjerre and Jorgensen included no doubt). But traditionally the season has always ran until 31st October so that's what promoters do. The fact that the riders have moved on and end their seasons at the end of the Polish/Swedish play offs and GP series is totally ignored by the traditionalists and we end up with what could have been a season highlight being a literal damp squib. Not specifically Newcastle's fault or a pop at Sarjeant (who could make 5 'gates' and score a hatful) but a point on promoters apparent lack of understanding of what the customer wants or how their product (the riders) work. A recipe for disaster. Especially after any number of blank weekends during the season.

That thought actually went through my mind ruffdiamond. Maybe its a bit of an incentive to him to get stuck in tomorrow with a view to getting a place in the team next season. If Steve, Matty, Ulrich and Max turn up tomorrow and perform to their true abilities, it just takes our reserves to outscore theirs and we're in with a chance despite the 12 point deficit. I remember Jamie Habbin scoring 1 point a few years ago when we beat Peterborough in the Gold Cup final, and as he pointed out, if he hadn't scored that point we would not have won the cup. Barker has had off days at Brough as has Eric Riss, so you never know! I was expecting England to get thumped this morning by the All Blacks and we know how that turned out. I've just talked myself into coming tomorrow night.

With you its always pretty easy

I CAN live with that statement. But then again I’m no longer involved with a printed motorsport magazine. I had a huge crash of my own, broke my arm, hit my head, had my time off and saw the light. Doesnt matter whats software used. MP used to supply instructions how the pics were to be sent. But even he didnt demand for CMYK levels. Or whatever. There’s a man at the office looking at the screen, he approves it and it should look the same when printed. 100% subjective view.

YOU are living in the past... what's a Lightroom?

I did log it and thought I'd just remind others ( tongue in cheek post, bored on a wet day)

Yes that's true , the cold war is certainly over

This is an extract from my book, "Cracked Eggs and Chicken Soup", based on my dad's memoirs of the East End of London in the 20s and 30s, and shows what happens when racial groups are stereotyped. Luckily there were enough "politically correct" people to put a stop to it at the Battle of Cable Street: "The mid-1930s became a very scary time for us Jews living around Bethnal Green and Whitechapel as the Blackshirts began to randomly attack Jews on the streets and smash the windows of Jewish shops. It was very unwise to go out on your own, especially after dark, so we normally hung around in threes or fours, came home from the pub together and so on. Mum and Dad were continually warning us not to go out alone and, above all, to make sure Julie was kept safe. They were worried sick about what some of those vile Blackshirt bastards might do to her if they caught her alone. So we never let Julie go out anywhere on her own. We’d go with her to work and take her out to meet her friends and make sure we were there when she wanted to come home. There was a very intimidating and menacing atmosphere abroad at the time and, as Jews, we knew we were the number one targets."

Some stats issued by the Extraleague- Google translation Over 48 million video plays in media cooperation with WP Sportowe Fakty, 12 million TV viewership of all events related to PGE Ekstraliga in nSport + and ELEVEN SPORTS, as well as the aggregate attendance at stadiums amounting to almost 700 thousand. viewers. These are PGE Ekstraliga records from the recently completed season 2019. Although before the season there was a lot of voices that playing matches on Friday dates, and above all TV broadcasts on two channels from all 64 matches, will not cause development, it turned out that the best speedway league in the world flourished and reached a very wide spectrum of fans. On nSport + and ELEVEN SPORTS TV, not only LIVE broadcasts from matches were watched, but also other programs preceding the league queues and summaries. Together, this gave an impressive result to over 12,288,270 viewers LIVE broadcast records at nSport + in the 2019 season: WROZIE (14/04/2019) 206,772 ZIEGOR (28/07/2019) 203,859 POLISH (02/06/2019) 203,488 LIVE broadcast records at ELEVEN SPORTS in the 2019 season: WROLUB (31/05/2019) 188,475 ZIEGRU (26/04/2019) 136,790 GRULUB (23/08/2019) 131,775 The best viewed PGE Ekstraliga Magazine (LIVE on nSport +) was the issue of 11/08/2019 with a viewership rate of nearly 90 thousand. viewers. Viewership of PGE Individual International Extraleague Championships 2019, played in Gdansk, amounted to 172,188 spectators. Average LIVE TV viewership in the club ranking (nSport + and ELEVEN SPORTS) in the 2019 season: BETARD Sparta Wroclaw 152.296 STELMET Falubaz Zielona Góra 140.643 GET WELL Toruń 136,295 FOGO Unia Leszno 133,421 SPEED CAR Motor Lublin 129.897 MRGARDEN GKM Grudziadz 120.520 TRULY.WORK Stal Gorzów 117.588 forBET Włókniarz Częstochowa 112,683 For the first time in history, PGE Ekstraliga had its own online magazine. In cooperation with Wirtualna Polska Sportowe Fakty, the "Without Brake" program, run by Dariusz Ostafiński and Jarosław Galewski, recorded 8,161,147 plays (21 LIVE magazines) on the internet. The great added value of "Without Brakes" was the fact that it could be viewed directly on the homepage of Wirtualna Polska (wp.pl). In total, until October 1, 2019, in cooperation with PGE Ekstraliga and Wirtualna Polska, 389 video materials were broadcast regarding the games of the best speedway league in the world. Invariably, PGE Ekstraliga games were very popular directly at stadiums. A total of 692,129 spectators watched 64 matches of the last season. This gave an average of 10,815 spectators. Considering Friday's matches, 283,895 spectators watched them (9,789 on average). On Sunday, in turn, it was even better: 408,234 spectators (in total) and 11,663 (on average) In the ranking of the percentage filling stadiums at PGE Ekstralig matches, SPEED CAR Motor Lublin turned out to be the clear leader, which had a set of spectators at all matches. Percentage filling of PGE Ekstraliga 2019 stadiums: Lublin 100% Wroclaw 98.72% Zielona Góra 87.30% Grudziadz 85.71% Częstochowa 82.10% Leszno 67.04% Gorzów 59.37% Toruń 49.71% PGE Ekstraliga has seen considerable development on social media. The official mobile application for games has been downloaded 89 thousand. times. During the season, its screens were displayed almost 28 million times. The speedwayekstraliga.pl website gained 1.23 million views, counting only from April to October 2019. In social media, the Facebook profile has been invariably the most popular (96,000 likes, almost 97,000 fans' involvement), in front of an Instagram account (31,000 followers) and Twitter (13,000 followers). The official YouTube channel of PGE Ekstraliga gathered 11 thousand. subscribers, and the time of watching all productions measured in minutes closed with the sum of 1.592.717.

To be fair, its not a 'Poole thing'.... For what seems like 'forever' away teams have arrived with guests... Often having agreed to a meeting knowing full well that their 'star rider' will be missing as required elsewhere, as lets be honest, their crowd wont be impacted by his absence. Or. They agreed to the meeting knowing they could bring in a couple of ringer track specialists to replace their known missing riders who might not be as good at that particular track.. Surprising how many times 'star riders' are always available for home meetings though... Given the reputation of the team competitions in the UK, it doesn't really matter who makes up the septets, so just ride under the banner of the two teams on the best nights you can get a crowd in... And as has been said, ensure your home side is strong so fans (who are obviously ok with contrived septets) can at least keep the faith that their team has a chance of winning their home meetings, thus will keep attending... And if you ride on the nights that traditionally brought you your best crowds, then you have more chance of getting those all important 'fans who used to be regulars', to attend more often than maybe they currently do now. . Much easier to bring them back into the speedway fold than attract newbies I would suggest..

Ellis Perks is now a Premiership, Championship and as good as a National League winner all in the one season, not many riders if any have done that in the one season.

You're not clinging on. You don't attend. You don't watch. All you do is post inaccurate negative bilge on this forum. You are not helping one iota with speedway's future. In fact it's downbeat, negative people like you that are as bigger part of the problem as anyone.

Long been awake as have lot's to do... certainly don't have time to continually post on a forum about a sport I have no interest in. I actually feel sorry for anyone who has so little happening in their life they have to do that. Come on Moxey, there's a big world out there, go explore, stop wasting your time on this deadbeat joke of a sport you occasionally have on in the background.

I can understand Sheffield, there has been many supporters who have wanted Thursday racing back, and this can only be achieved by moving up. Berwick have always run Saturday nights so that does not make any sense. Kent runs Mondays but have a very early curfew how is that going to work for TV. I will believe this when the announcement come form the clubs themselves, until then for me it is pure speculation from another Promoter.

A bit late to the party but wanted to add some observations to my first visit to Blunsdon for a while due to moving from the area and work commitments. I make no apology for the self indulgent post either! Thursday was my first ever experience of the Robins winning a trophy on home soil. It was tremendous. I saw a group of grown men dancing together, plastic cups of lager spilling as they danced their Dad dances in a circle. The atmosphere was terrific. Chanting at speedway? Never have I heard that before. Jeff Beck’s Hi ho Silver Lining was belted out several times. Another group of young lads (teenagers this time) all singing together, laughing and smiling) Before the meeting began, dark clouds circled overhead, looking menacing and threatening. Worryingly , one massive cloud began to empty its cargo. At the time, I was stood inside having a cheeky beer. I watched as the home straight crowd staring anxiously at the sky. Fortunately, the clouds passed over and although the track looked wet, it certainly looked raceable. I watched the first 3 heats from the grass bank entering turn 3: I must admit, I felt nervous as Ipswich edged ahead. Even after The Iversen exclusion. They looked sharp from the starts, and Chris Harris ( for the first two laps in heat 3) looked hungry and committed. But then I witnessed an absolute steam roller of a side. Jensen was aggressive and fast Musielak, smooth and slick. Doyle was as expected. He’s a terrific leader and a real winner. Batchelor ( who I have criticised many times, mainly for when he opens his mouth) really does look high class these days. His pass of Doyle in heat 13, ( yes it was a pass too rather than any kind of team riding between the two) was superb. Ipswich were simply annihilated. Jake Allen gave a gutsy performance, but tired after Hawkins threw him into as many early races as he could in an attempt to contain the rampant Robins. This was the best Swindon team I have ever seen. And, in my opinion would beat any of the other 3 championship winning teams. There seemed genuine affection for the team from the packed crowd, and a pleasing team spirit. I liked the blend of orange/tangerine, ( I’ve never seen so many reflective orange highway maintenance jackets worn by supporters!!) Finally, I’ve supported the Robins from the days of Martin Ashby, Killer, Bouchard and Jan Andersson. I would have given anything for one of the mid seventies Robins teams to win the league, or even win an away match! I followed them everywhere on the coach, only to see them get a hammering at places like Cradley, Halifax and Wimbledon. The Blunsdon track in those days was excellent. Always passing, always good racing. These days, I like the shorter version. Huge compliment to the track staff who have worked wonders with it. In order to get a quick get away to travel back to my home in Cornwall, I left straight after heat 15. As I reached my car in the car park, I heard another rendition of Hi ho silver lining (Hi ho Swindon Robins!,) I sat in the drivers seat and caught a glimpse of my face in the mirror.......I was absolutely beaming!!! As I reached the M4, it was pouring with rain.. But the sun was shining on another triumphant season for a super speedway team.