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Fancy Berwick to just sneak this 61-29.

We all know that if you ask the riders for their opinions on a track on any given night you'll get 14 different opinions. Some leave their brains in the toolbox and will just go for it and others will, understandably, have concerns, especially if they've had big injuries in the past. On tricky tracks some will have career best performances, I remember Lol Hare going through the card at Cov many years ago scoring an 18 point maximum on a well dodgy track, I don't think he ever scored as well again!

That document on the PCC planning portal that gives the AEPG rebuttal of the speedway at the EoES is very telling. The obvious anger in the tone of it shows how much Butterfield is hurting and how much the fact that he had no idea at all about anything to do with speedway was in his mind all along.. The fact that he didn't even understand the position of speedway in the sporting hierarchy of the country is an obvious open personal failure on his part. It shows that he has had no intention at all of even considering speedway as a part of his thinking when he used the standard proforma approach to the development planning structure. That exposed level of incompetence has become personal now. In that document he has exposed the extent to which he was intent on only considering the bog-standard development type carbon copy that has succeeded when used by others in the past down south. That hollow personal crusade approach makes it very clear that the sort of activities that have made the EoES so valued by the community were never going to line his pockets to the extent he thinks he needs to survive. That makes him simultaneously both dangerous and vulnerable. The AEPG approach is to make a significant point in the low number of times a section of the EoES would be used for speedway. On it's own that simplistic outsider understanding is obvious in every part of the Butterfield plan. No separate proper spectator sport can ever hope to get close to making a profit without becoming a part of a shared multi-use volume occupancy. Even the new Spurs stadium has been designed to take in American Football, Women's Football and huge pop concerts plus more. Moreover, if you are shouting your mouth out about only allowing one more year of occupancy to anything, including speedway while you draw your plans up was always going to make sure that having more than one speedway team riding at the EoES was going to be impossible to justify. The lack of speedway in Peterborough is solely down to one misguided outsider. Any multi-use sport facility of the kind that anyone with a single brain-cell would contemplate to future-proof the continued community value of the EoES would have to be designed to accommodate a wide range of sports, both inside and outside. The areas under the grandstands could be able to house gym-type sporting facilities, squash, badminton, martial arts and so-on. The centre green could be used for grass type sports like local school football and hockey championships and so on. Add that to the fact that the local plan only approved 650-ish houses by including the LP30 sections because it was making sure that there were proper large spaces to carry on the EoES legacy of events rather than the Butterfield concrete jungle of houses, the hotel/pub that no brewery will ever want to take on and daft posh-boy psuedo-sports concrete shells, mean this ill-conceived pile of dross should be consigned to hanging on a piece of string in the smallest room so it is at least doing something useful.

Who have you got at two tomorrow?

I couldn't disagree more, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the track last night, a bit heavy? Yes. The Belle Vue lads seemed to be revelling in it! Leicester were poor out of the start and then poor for the rest of the race, it's not the first time Leicester have fallen to pieces at the NSS and probably won't be the last! On what basis would you have abandoned/postponed the meeting before heat 1?

Parker wasn't ready last year and isn't ready this year. He just has connections in the club and is getting laps ahead of others who are more deserving. Its been happening for years and will continue in the future. Sometimes it clicks for a rider and often it doesn't.....

Belle Vue is one of the safest tracks in the world, there wasn't a single fall last night and nobody really looked like they were getting into much trouble, yes visibilty was an issue and the track was pretty much shot by heat 14. If we're going to wait for perfect conditions, especially in Manchester, we may as well shut up shop now.

During the early races Rory was doing his best to remain positive about the racing “improving as track conditions improved”. Then the rain came. Consequently, Rory was quite right with his comments. The track, with racing on it being questionable from the off soon became barely rideable at all thus illustrating how questionable it was to start the meeting in the first place. The best thing to come out of to the meeting was the riders remained fit. The worst thing? A bore fest & riders preferring to preserve their skins for the remainder of the season. A bad advert for speedway. So most probably a good thing not many folk there to watch it!

How is a rider being a fair way behind "development"? Unless last year he was continuously lapped & now he's only well behind. Now Sonny Springer scoring loads from reserve - that's development!

Oh dear and I was led to believe on here that you never get a boring meeting at Belle Vue.

Dead right Wasnt afraid to attack it !! Remember it was bloody cold as well ........

That was some performance ! 1999 Lol actually scored 15, only really backed up by Todd Wiltshire, For the Bees Greg Hancock also scored 15 in the 34-54 Oxford win Good times !!

A few spots of rain in Kings Lynn today there must be doubts about Thursdays meeting.

Toft has been declared in the side for Thursday,so must have been withdrawn on Friday as a precaution.

Only posting what she said.

No.

I can't see either reserve ' developing ' much, possibly reached their limits already.

had this still been on doubt it would have gone ahead as guess what its raining again!

Sorry, I meant I didn’t have an input; I just wanted to say ”nice dog”.

Wasn’t supposed to be. Just commenting on what I thought was a contradicting post. Not the end of the World. Thank you, he’s a babe magnet. Lol..

Poor weather forecast, Fans unlikely to see 15 heats, A track not conducive to racing on (via riders from each team). But I would agree to run it to get a fixture out of the way given I was already too late to avoid paying riders travel, stadium & other operating costs.

Would love to see a Ipswich victory dedicated to the memory of Suffolk and Ipswich legend John Louis. RIP tiger.

Red Rory! Everybody Out!

Yeah, I thought Schlein’s pre-meeting track walk was great and he clearly has the personality for media work, but he went proper glass half empty when it started raining. I felt like I was listening to a Union rep with a background in HSE.

Not yet- FIM Europe should announce line-ups this week hopefully.

Perhaps I should have put the after it, but at least Crescent "Girl" saw that it was meant in partial jest.

there will be some white city ones going

He's our pocket rocket

Lions had three race winners and just one heat advantage. Fricke was a massive disappointment on a track he should know very well and he is starting this season like he did last year. Fed up with hearing about conditions and set ups from commentary teams, just get on with it! As many have predicted, Lion’s undoing could be the strength of their reserves. On a positive note I thought the BSN coverage was very good (first time I’ve watched) and I actually enjoyed the ‘laid back likeable northerner’ in Paul Bowen. Couldn’t get Dickson to crack a smile though could he ?

It's alright, Fricke will be at reserve soon and then watch us go!

1. Can you imagine him as your team captain getting in your head all night long!

aces made the right decision moving max fricke on it seems

1. I've seen him single handedly getting a meeting abandoned at Peterborough a few years back when there was absolutely nothing wrong with the track, and listening to him over the last few meetings I can see exactly why. 2. He needs a ladder to get on his bike

Listening to Schlein on commentary it's easy to imagine how he talks himself out of riding when the track is anything other than perfect. He'll be trying to get this one called off from the commentary box!

I’m about to wake-up the missus to ask if she needs any housework doing.

@crescent girl has just been audited by @StevePark and has 3-5 working days to respond in writing.

Is it? I genuinely didn’t know that. I’m sure I’ve been seeing Dick Barrie‘s name in Speedway Stars and programmes since the 90s, but I’ve never actually saw him. Deadly. I hung around after the meeting for an autograph, a selfie and a calf massage.

No idea what Chapman is or isn't doing or how his mind works but when he says: "would be very happy to open talks over the ownership at an appropriate time." - I'd like to know his definition of the appropriate time? This was 31st Oct 2023: " The Peterborough Telegraph understands talks between a six-man consortium committed to saving speedway in Peterborough and Peterborough Panthers owner Keith Chapman are ongoing, but progress has been slow." - slow without a hidden agenda, allegedly The focus has to be the EoES, the local plan and pressure on PCC/AEPG - talk of alternatives just chips away at another element of LP30 and, as has been noted by PCC Policy, AEPG have tried to engineer avoiding responsibility under LP30 : LP30 – Culture Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities - Policy LP36 specifically makes reference to the requirements of Policy LP30 and the loss of existing cultural, leisure, tourism and community facilities. The applicant will need to demonstrate that the proposals meet the requirements of points k-m, in particular with regard to the speedway track. The applications do propose to make a good, appropriate, level of sport and leisure uses. Normally, the application would not be considered to meet points k-m as they stand, as they do not provide a replacement facility for speedway use, and the speedway track was clearly fit for purpose. This has been made more complex by the Speedway club having been served notice and asked to vacate the site and remove their safety and lighting infrastructure, therefore no longer meeting point k and in no longer being fit for purpose requiring the meeting of point l and m. It is noted that Sport England have provided comments in response to the application. There will be no local resolution if PCC buckle and AEPG win.

Rather Rowe than a foreign journeyman. Rowe might feel he has a point to prove and give his all rather than just 6-7 pointer going through the motions. And Poole fans will welcome him back.

Brilliant! That’s got to be right up there with the most hypocritical posts ever. Done to death, then add more conspiracy.

In my time I've seen plenty of crap meetings on "perfect" tracks and some belters on so called crap tracks. A "crap" track can often be a great leveller