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When I read the initial press release I did wonder how it would be done, now we can see it beggars belief, can someone explain why, the last two seasons have run to the wire time wise, already promoters are worried about doubling up clashes, , especially now it looks like el/bl gets priority, as someone else has mentioned why not run fours qualifiers on similar lines to the league cup, 4 groups 3 top tea.s go through so 4 teams in final, but make it full 1-7s.

A very positive press release from Berwick promoters. Nice to see. Good luck in 2014

Lol yeh just seen what I did

Imo this is a great idea, all super 7 events are shared anyway, surely if the bspa went to the showground people and said we would like to run say 5 e ents there a deal could be reached, as has been said, fours, pl nl and el riders, british senior and u21, pairs all sorts come on bspa look at it, lets face it e everything in place just if sold you may have to hire tractors and bring in airfence. Imo this is a great idea, all super 7 events are shared anyway, surely if the bspa went to the showground people and said we would like to run say 5 e ents there a deal could be reached, as has been said, fours, pl nl and el riders, british senior and u21, pairs all sorts come on bspa look at it, lets face it e everything in place just if sold you may have to hire tractors and bring in airfence.

i wonder if the reserves will still be able to be used as a "reserve" ie underperforming rider in main body or for tapes exc etc as before, or restricted to their heats.

but if you already race each other in a north/south group, you would then have to travel further for the extra 3. i am assuming here if this is the case, edinburgh, glasgow, berwick, newcastle, redcar. workington. plymouth, somerset, rye house, ipswich, sheffield, scunthorpe. so by what your saying on distance plymouth/somerset would meet redcar/workington, rye/ipswich v newcastle/berwick and sheffield/scunthorpe v glasgow/edinburgh. seems the north especially glasgow/edinburgh are getting the best deal here

North/ south split 6 teams so 5h 5a, then drawn against 2 teams from opposite division giving another 2h 2a. 14 regular season matches. If true what a crock of ****. Imo of course

clearly states 14h/a regular league programme, i must admit a bit baffled on this one. Premier League: 12 Teams: Berwick, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Ipswich, Newcastle, Plymouth, Redcar, Rye House, Scunthorpe, Sheffield, Somerset, Workington. Points limit 42.50 Extended regular league programme giving 14 home and 14 away fixtures. Play-offs as before (for top six teams). League Cup: Three groups of four teams KO Cup retained as before

so a form of what everyone was complaining about in the el the past couple seasons

having just read the bspa statement again, can anyone care to enlighten us on this one, as 12 teams indicate 11 + 11, or is there to be a split of some kind or what

but kerr travels to newcastle each sunday doesnt that potentially cost him?

Imo, possibly because your promotion and one or two others in pl dont want it, the old " we can't get young brits to travel here". well try offering some of the benefits that have been given to shoddy foreigners over the years.

why have you got jake anderson in there?

but how many chances have ostergaard, a,dryml, summers, kosciusch, lahti, l.lindgren, kozza, north hadall ending up at reserve this year, much rather brits given a shot and the backing

not so sure there KL with Lambert and poss rose/kerr, wolves Morris/ Perry/ Blackbird (going with Dudley connection) and be interesting to see who is with Ellis at Lakeside

they have said races will be protected whether that is 1/2 or all we will have to wait for full statement

Good

after reading John Cooks piece on the Lakeside website , it appears to me the term NL, may not be strictly true as he indicates Adam Ellis will be allocated to them, (correct me if im wrong but under current rules wouldnt Adam be ineligible to NL in 2014 due to his PL ave, but John has stated he will be eligible for all 3 leagues), and the expectation that Adam will be at Lakeside indicates that the asset issue may come into force. imo i will await for full details, before judgement but imo they have tried to reduce costs/ potentially keep top riders (up to each club how it builds its top 5) and give British youngsters (not 2nd rate halfhearted foreigners such as stachrya/ gizatulin etc) a chance to race with higher standard riders, all these to me fall into what is needed, eg Wolves could keep Tai and introduce say Ashley Morris/ KL could keep NKI and introduce Kerr/Lambert, also we get 2+2 fixtures which is what we have wanted as well, im optimistic on it all.

How about this. Nick Josh Alex Jack holder 5pts Charlie Brady If brady is on 3 (imo should be a 5) leaves I think 5.47 which kyle would fit if brady is 5 then leaves 3.47 maybe olly or lewis in then

dont think the field was overly strong, but you can only beat whats in front of you. dont see you in this section much statman, or are you just letting us know how 2 of the 2014 rebels are doing ?

I'm sorry but I don't see how Brady can come in on a 3, no offence to the lad as have never met him but he has done aussie u21, Danish el, and last of all I don't understand how you can be a 5 in 2013 then a 3 a year later. Let's be real he will have no allegiance to gb.

i think youve totally misread the above posts i agree totally with this, and it must stop, the next will possibly be Brady Kurtz, as i recall last winter he didnt have a uk passport so would have been a 5, but can now apply for one and be a 3 pointer, and has been racing top league in Denmark, sorry nothing personal to the lad but he will never be british i suspect so should remain as original a 5 pointer

perhaps bunyan is wildcard in nz again and that gives him time to get back

milik always impressive in czecho, just no where else usually

i do see why this is being looked at and fully agree with the prospect of major manufacturers coming into the sport, something that has been tried in the past, speedway was seen by honda as a minority sport when speedway was pretty big still. but getting back to the engines, the rules would have to be changed totally, petrol, gearboxes, wet clutch as opposed to dry etc, i know not hard to do but many are saying bring it into nl now, so what does the lad doubling into pl have to do have one of these and his usual speedway bikes for pl, that makes it expensive. vince you say the parts last longer, but why is this, surely conrods/pistons etc are made of the same materials regardless of the sport, if not why not, if it is due to petrol being used and not methanol, surely it would be of more benefit to everyone to look at petrol again (i know it was tried before),then riders would not have to just dump there current equipment and start again, an expense thast would put many out of the sport as you would have no market to sell your gm/jawa to. again sorry for my original negativty and i am reading what everyone is saying, but it seems very kneejerk, and cant see that it will help speedway in its current state, which is primarily down to lack of crowds due to poor promotion/poor stadia (not always speedway promotions fault). i dont believe it will bring more riders into the sport either, this can only be done with tracks and tracktime being more available to those that want to try it.