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Fredrik Lindgren tweeted he didn't see anything wrong with it. As mentioned prior neither Tatum or Nicholls had the slightest thought that the meeting was going to be abandoned... again this is unprecedented.. when a track is too dangerous to ride, the commentators are fully aware of it and saying the meeting is in doubt for some time prior.

WK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZKowTuMSSk Go to 1hr and 15 mins and watch Heat 11. Forget what you know happened afterwards. There is absolutely no way in the world you could remotely begin to think that is a track 'too dangerous' to race on. It's a cracking race between Jonasson and Gollob.. not one filled with mistakes, not bucking and rearing, just simply a good speedway race which requires a decent track to happen!! One should also note Iversen, wheel perfect and VERY fast in winning the race... what's his reaction at the end? Is he shaking his head as riders do when they think it's dangerous? Oh no, he's punching the air in celebration. Indeed, carry on watching and you get a shot of Iversen back in the pits.. "Thumbs up" to the camera, not a care in the world. Again NOT the actions of someone who thinks the track is dangerous.

It's staggering. Throughout the entire history of the sport, when faced with a 'dangerous track' riders show little inclination to race. They two wheel into corners, they make their feelings known when interviewed.. they're getting out of shape consistently.. Yet funnily enough, this track had the bizarre ability to be 'dangerous' yet not cause any of these things to happen! Indeed, quite the opposite, riders were really going for it, diving underneath each other with no fear. Then all of a sudden, despite not a peep prior from any rider about the track they decide its too dangerous to continue! Just like that.. What changed between their 3rd rides and what would have been their 4th?? Absolutely nothing... except they'd reached the point where they get paid.

Or the track needs some skill to ride, not just fastest engine.

Please tell me you are not being serious??? Are you suggesting that BSI or the FIM suddenly decided, I know, let's postpone this meeting, that will go down well! You do realise the riders all vacated the pits and locked themselves in a room? It's absolutely categorically 100% fact that the riders were responsible for the meeting to be postponed.. that point is never in doubt. What CAN be debated is whether they were RIGHT to force the meeting to be postponed.

Exactly.. That wouldn't be the case from BSI saying don't say anything. This is the RIDERS quite clearly who have taken this vow of silence.. If the track was dangerous then why is that needed? As said, more to this than meets the eye. The organisers have no power, that has now been shown.

I see your point, but as you said earlier, go watch heats 9 through 12 again, try to put to one side what you 'know' and picture it like any other meeting.. you won't see any indication that the meeting is about to be called off, riders are going at it hammer and tongs. The one who fell, Batchelor, he wasn't fit enough to hold onto the bike anyway, by his own admission.

There were problems in practice on Friday Sid. Overnight work was then done, the riders practiced on Saturday morning and all said it was fine.

For once, it's a decent idea I think.,

Greg and Nicki weren't winning.

100% it was the issue... . hence the big delay earlier in the meeting. No doubt they then found out if they got to Heat 12 the result would stand.. and that's what they did. However the riders know they would look like complete prats if they came out and gave that as their reason for not continuing.. so they went behind closed doors, shut up shop until they had concocted their story. Dangerous track should work well! That'll convince the lackeys. And so it has.

Which brings me back to the point of there being more to this than meets the eye. If the track truly was so dangerous, as said we would all have seen it. The commentators would have seen it. Tatum, Nicholls even Pearson would have noticed it. Yet they hadn't even remotely considered the possibility that the meeting was going to get called off. Had it been so dangerous I am sure there would have been an immediate apology as well. However, when you have a situation where suddenly riders are refusing to ride on a perfectly raceable track where does that leave the organisers? Point the finger at the riders and this is going to happen again... remember, there is another company lurking, waiting to muscle in on the scene... certain riders have already effectively jumped ship.. So basically they are left in a situation of having to try and apologise and take the flak for something that they haven't caused. They didn't cancel the meeting. The riders went on strike., It was stated at the start of the GP that they weren't allowed to return to the pits anymore. Yet once again we saw riders taking the law into their own hands when Doyle jumped the green light. He wasn't excluded at first.. Not until Nicki Pedersen left the track and got on the phone to the referee to complain. Then a good 2 mins later Doyle was suddenly excluded. That was the beginning of the end. Pedersen should NOT have been allowed to leave the track, the 2 min warning should have been on immediately and if he wanted to complain in the pits he'd be excluded.

He isn't, he's on the list of eligible guests to cover for missing draft riders..... I think. Might be mistaken though.

Practice was fine, the riders practiced Saturday morning and said there were no issues with the track. The starts were fair for all, in fact they were the fairest starts we have seen in any GP! Bar Doyles exclusion every rider was sat perfectly still... so you are almost right, but have it twisted.. the issue was the starts WERE fair.. the advantage that some seek to gain was gone.

You're right. Nothing worse than seeing entertaining speedway racing with passing. I want processional racing!!

No, the stupid comment is saying riders 'risk their lives for our entertainment'. They don't.

You mean you watched the Elite League and are now back to the 'so called' Premier League section.. or more precisely, the 'inaccurately' named Premier League section.

When was this 'deterioration'? Trouble was around the corner because the riders wanted trouble. It seems they tried and failed to get it called of over the green light issue so went to Plan B which was the track.

Another watching a different meeting then, or just completely making things up. There was passing in Heat 1, Lakeside riders both made the gate, Wells forced his way into 2nd. Or maybe Jason Doyle was making it up in his interview about being passed. Heat 2 Blackbird passed Wright. Heat 3 saw Musielak go from 1st to last and back to 3rd again. Heat 4 Adam Ellis led and PK passed him around the outside. As said, don't make up things.

And pray, do ask yourself.. when have riders ever been quiet about dangerous track conditions. Remember there wasn't even a peep DURING the meeting. THAT is unprecedented. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yr5laVQqLo Damn that track looks dangerous... NOT. All 3 riders full on the gas, going for it.

Oh dear. Gagged by who? Of what benefit is it to BSI to 'gag riders'. The meeting was called off as the riders claimed it was dangerous. The damage is done to BSI. The riders are gagged, by themselves (or the power clique) in case some of them say.. "Well actually, there wasn't really a problem, I was racing perfectly fine". Some people seem to be under a very deluded perception that BSI/the organisers orchestrated this meeting to be called off in some sort of money making scheme.. nothing could be further from the truth.

No they don't as Saturday night showed us. They race because they enjoy to race and they get paid to race. Entertaining people is a nice bonus to some of them.

Hmm.. one could argue they've already tried that trick Sayfutdinov and Gollob! A successful showpiece event in Warsaw could have effectively ended Onesports aspirations.. it couldn't be allowed to happen. Besides, it wouldn't be a good way to go about things, paying an entire field to not ride in a Championship, One Sport would not look good there... this way, BSI take all the damage, all very convenient for One Sport to pick up the pieces with no bad publicity. The issue is, how many of the riders were really upset? We know we have Hancock and Pedersen leading the charge.. things weren't going well for them were they? Then you'll have Gollob (see above). Add in the two whinging Aussies, one who shouldn't even have been riding, the other who is complaining about every track just now. The lower end of the field aren't going to stand up to those. Indeed one could argue that Zagar was happy to take away a gold medal, Harris silver etc. I totally agree regarding the sport being no better of with Onesport, one only has to look at the history of those involved in it to see that.

And still people ignore what actually happened on track where there was no indication of riders thinking it was dangerous. Where the racing was at least good and was getting better with passing inside and out. Where no rider in interviews during the meeting gave ANY indication that the track was dangerous. Where the two races prior to the call off produced great RACING. It's unprecedented for these things to happen on a 'dangerous' track. BSI's hands are completely tied here, they can't point the finger at those truly to blame, the riders, as that will ensure this will happen again. I think it's time they look at finding a way of exiting the sport and letting the poles/one sport run the world championship... As they will get their way eventually one way or another..

Watching another meeting were we?