BWitcher

Very different situation.

Tough. That shouldn't have any bearing whatsoever.

It isn't anything to' believe'. It's simply a fact. Even Starman can't stoop to these levels.

It isn't something to argue. It's not an opinion. You don't even grasp what the discussion is about. Wolves had something to race for last night. It's fact.

Stop blabbering nonsense. Being realistic, the form of a team and any other irrelevant info you've typed is an entirely different conversation. You said Wolverhampton had nothing to race for. They did. You were wrong.

Even by your standards, this is a shocking post. Somerset had three guest riders. We only lost by six last time we were there. Even a pt from the meeting would have put some pressure on Belle Vue who without Bewley are no guarantees to win at home to Somerset. Wolverhampton had absolutely everything to race for in the race for the play-offs. Their previous form is irrelevant. What chance we 'realistically' had of winning is irrelevant. I have not said anything about 'suddenly believing' we would start winning away.. even if I had, it would be irrelevant. The indisputable fact is Wolverhampton had everything to race for and your comment suggesting otherwise was ridiculous.

What on earth are you talking about? They had absolutely everything to ride for!

It literally can't be finished within 30 mins though, never mind at the maximum Forget all the other issues.

How on earth do you work that out? Based on an average of 15 mins for the 15 races.. plus 2 minutes between each race.. That's 45. There's generally track grading, fallers, tapes exclusions, a tactical or reserve ride meaning two in a row.. the nominated heat. 90 mins is a realistic time all clubs should be striving to achieve in my opinion.

I know, hence my post. I haven't said anything that will upset anyone I don't think

You've gonna upset some happy clappers!

Scoreline very flattering towards Wolves. RR for Bewley has netted 1pt? Would have been a 20pt+ win with him in the side.

Another bright start to an away meeting for Wolves.. now comes the inevitable collapse...

Updates was talking nonsense that night.. for instance it stated that Lindback was just going through the motions after his 4th ride.. after just stating he had passed Karlsson.. and in the race prior to that he had passed Woffinden before chasing down Thorsell and involved in a wheel to wheel tussle passing him and then being pipped on the line. Then Heat 13 he stormed past Masters, shoving him wide to allow Holder through into 2nd. He was selected for Heat 15, that says more than enough regarding the improvement he had made during the meeting. He came last in that race, but let's not forget it was Lindgren and Woffinden he was up against, plus a flying Holder (max). So, as I said, after his first ride when he was miles behind (bike problems maybe) he was in the thick of the action. If Ford wanted someone to cry off he'd have chosen Bjarne Pedersen.

I didn't say it was. I said he improved massively as the night went on. Was tailed off big time in his opening ride but it was clear he got it sorted. Anyway, I was simply refuting the suggestion that Ford decided to 'get rid' and opt to go with RR in the 2nd leg.. no logic to that at all.

This thread is for sensible ideas to move the sport forward, not insanity.

You could track the Colts team and do that

And as I said, after starting slowly he had 2 excellent rides including a stormer in Heat 13, hence being nominated for Heat 15.

As above.. you replaced Andersen with Lindback.

Did he? He had two excellent rides once he got dialled in. Ford most certainly didn't say 'see ya'.

Absolutely awful idea and even less value for money.

Good to see the positive ideas flowing, I'm sure a combination of them all could bring something to revolutionise the sport. Only Starman has picked out a negative with his dislike of the 'regional' league. Good to see he is in favor of the remaining proposals though.

I don't think I could have made it any more interesting. How about if Jerran Hart does the coin toss live from his prison cell?

Really Starman? Care to explain? Most others seem quite positive. You're happy with the Cup rules though?

I'm afraid this type of post sums up the sport as it is now. Someones takes the time to lovingly put together a plan to save the sport and it is met with derision by certain parties. Fortunately I'm happy to see the response has been mostly positive with numerous fans offering ideas and improvements. Ouch remembers the wonderful scenes surrounding the 2005 World U21 final one of the most thrilling events in modern speedway history. Some say if only we could have bottled that moment.. well, we can. Just as an addendum to my plan, KOC rules would eliminate one of the biggest bug bears that some fans seem to have.. i.e. gardening. No time for that when the race begins in the pits.