BWitcher

Tbf, it's not an alias. Nothing wrong with changing usernames. Crunch time coming up for GB now with three hard races to come.

Tai couldn't do anymore there. 3rd place for Lambert good enough though. Great stuff from Doyle, the more others take pts of each other the better.

Correct. Massive gap, he was actually going through. Magic turned and they collided. Fair enough to exclude him.

Hard move, Magic turned in as well which made it look worse.

Again.. that has been done many, many times in the past, it is nothing new. Many a time a pairing has let a rider go and concentrated on picking up the minor placings. Edited, as just read your further reply.

Ok.. a team needed a 5-1. Need both opponents to come behind your partner then. The point is, it's not suddenly dangerous.

It's not been dangerous in 70 years of speedway prior. Many a time a team has needed a 3-3 to win a meeting, or a championship..

Not only that, in the past they have taken great delight in 'announcing' the score of important football matches at the meeting... as if folk would not be able to find out if they wanted too. Net result, anyone thinking of going to the speedway, recording the game and watching it when they got home would just stay at home instead.

Of course he is, to prove the point that fitness is an important component. However, The Dean Machine was citing Doyle as an example to prove his argument that it doesn't work and that was who I was replying too

There is only one person not listening here and that is you. There is no 'defeat', it was never even a contest to begin with. You are 100% wrong on this issue and are just being pigheaded about it. Have you not noticed nobody else on the thread agrees with you at all? In fact, you are so wrong, you make some of Starmans worst posts look positively intelligent.

You're not grasping it, likely because you don't want to grasp it. You seem to think because every rider is not World Champion being fit doesn't work.. I think there's a slight flaw there. You've tried suggesting the Poles don't take the fitness quite as seriously.. which doesn't really help your argument given their lack of World Championships for all the talent they possess. Now you bring Craig Cook into it. Cook, a rider who has made the GP's, on merit. I wonder how well he'd be doing had he not bothered with being fit. I'll give you a clue... he wouldn't be in the GP's.

I enjoyed the piece, it was something different. I didn't mind the dinner party question, or that it was repeated, different to the standard questions used so often and stock answers we so consistently hear. Good work, look forward to seeing more.

Why oh why do you have to throw your toys out of the pram? . You had a polite reply after your feedback which I'm sure was found helpful.

You realise that what you are claiming is only defeating your own argument? Some of those Poles, Zmarzlik for example, are blessed with abundant talent. You're suggesting they don't focus on fitness as much as messrs Woffinden, Doyle, Hancock and that's your argument for saying fitness isn't important? Hmmm.. Let me just look at how many World Titles they've won.....

So you're saying they don't work on their fitness as much as say Doyle, Woffinden, Hancock etc?

Bless. You do realise that most, if not all, the other GP riders also take their fitness very seriously? I'd also disagree he is one of the 'worst' gaters. Keep arguing about scientific facts Dean, you just make yourself look silly.

So you keep claiming... but there they are, the top guys, all concentrating massively on their fitness. There are many examples of folks who weren't into being fit.. and were amazed at how much better they felt both physically and mentally once they actually committed. Then of course there are the others who can't be bothered and come up with all sorts of excuses to not put that extra effort.. you don't hear as much about them though as they're not winning very often.

You're so out of your depth on this topic it's staggering. You're adding 2+2 and coming up with 9 to fit your argument. The majority of the top boys take fitness very seriously. Is it the be all and end all? Of course it isn't yet you seem to have got it into your head that is what people are saying. However, don't bother with that side of it and you have a piece missing from the puzzle. Doyle is completely the wrong example to use as it was only when he did get serious that he suddenly elevated himself into the top echelon. You rightly keep talking about the mental side of it whilst remaining completely oblivious to the reality that being physically fit vastly boosts your confidence.

It is all part of the package and contributes towards your head being 100%.

Well Woffinden did.

They wouldn't be in the slightest, just a way for you to have a little dig...

Ah Workington... Craig Cook... No bias there is there.

Cook was on a warning. Quite simply, why run the risk? Also the plan was always to give Cook a ride, then Lambert one. Lambert did better. Later in the meeting it could have backfired tremendously putting a cold Cook back in when qualification wasn't certain.

No I wasn't, so as such I am in a much better position to give an opinion. You saw things once, in real time, I saw them several times, in slow motion. Well done for ruining your own argument.. not that you had one. We understand. You're a bitter Belle Vue fan, still seething over losing the league in 2016. That's all there is to it.

Your entire post is utter nonsense. The very fact you seem to think you have the ability to mind read shows that. You don't 'see' a thought process at all. You just see someone standing there looking at a table... trying to class that as action shows the frailty of your argument. You then really lose the plot and fly into some fantasy realm. Who has said that people are turning away from snooker and rugby and flocking to speedway? Nobody. When you have to 'create' something to get your argument to suit it shows the fragility of it in the first place. Cricket and Baseball are two other sports with massive periods of downtime compared to actual action. It doesn't cause a problem. I don't need to 'prove' anything, there are countless other sports with lots of downtime. You're trying to take one issue and make believe that is the root cause of all of speedways problems. It isn't.