BWitcher

Not keeping up are you. Woffinden has already stated he would finance it himself. The BSPA would be handing over no cheque book. What is laughable is your feeble attempts to abuse. Jealousy is not a becoming trait.

Yep, and you were all partying into the night.. oh wait. No, the reality is you were gutted, Craig Cook was gutted, the Belle Vue team was gutted because you weren't champions. Whether that's right or wrong is another matter, but the reality is, you won nothing. Again, they've done this, but the reality is, the clubs have no real interest in the league winners 'shield'. The 'Champions' are the winners of the Grand Final. Nobody is gutted at just missing out on the 'league winners shield'.. they are devastated at losing the Grand Final.

Woffinden and his situation with Team GB is an entirely different issue and has no relevance to the discussion. Although your fascination with it does reveal the real truth behind your claims of 'immorality'. It's just another excuse to bash a rider you don't like. As I've mentioned above, I don't remember you having any issue with a certain Jason Crump 'using' Britain when he signed for Belle Vue in August 2009. As for converting averages.. far too much of that in the sport as it is. Woffinden had a perfectly valid average, achieved pretty recently in a year where he was World Champion. An average, which I do admit, was a little on the high side given his actual performance. Wolves took that gamble signing him on that high average and fortunately they got away with it. Indeed we also suffered when Woffinden convinced Peter Karlsson to use his engine, adversely effecting the Swede's form. 6+1 from 3 completed rides on his own machinery including beating Cook from the back and all over Nicholls.. to picking up 8 from 5 with one of those points gifted.

Woffinden had an average of 7.03 because that was his earned average in a season when he was the reigning World Champion. Upon being brought into the team, riding at 2nd string, he performed around the level you would expect from a 6.00 rider riding in the 2nd string slot. Tungate meanwhile, due to the way Somerset built their team was thrown into the No 1 position, a position far tougher than he had experienced before. As a result his average tumbled. Somerset were stupid enough to release him instead of capitalising on him at reserve. Belle Vue stepped in to sign him, getting rid of a rider who had committed to a full season for them and hadn't under performed, nor was he injured. Indeed it could be said Tungate 'used' Somerset just to get a nice low average to make his move to Belle Vue. Had he joined Poole there is little doubt there would be aspersions cast... The reality is, no matter how much you try and squirm, Belle Vue have done exactly the same thing Wolves did. If one team lacks morals, so does the other. The reality is also, Tungate is a far bigger bargain. I understand, it's tough, you need someone to blame for another year without winning the league. It seems Belle Vue have become the Liverpool of Speedway.. maybe it will be 'your year' this time. As for your principles, you must have been most upset when Belle Vue signed Jason Crump in August 2009, how dare Crump use British Speedway like that!

So, it's nothing to do with no sporting reason to justify him being given a wildcard is it? It's the fact you don't like him. He's won two World Titles in the last three years, I feel that's enough of a 'sporting reason'. And I read a little further and my point is proven.

What does he say?

Given Woffinden was riding as a second string in the 'old format', one in which most riders were increasing their average by at least a couple pts, you've only backed up my argument there. Indeed, you could even argue Woffinden performed below expectations, even for a 7.03 average. You are right, Tungate has only had five meetings, plenty of time for it to go up even further. Your personal principles seem somewhat biased.. there is zero difference between the Woffinden and Tungate signings. Thanks for clarifying, I knew you'd mentioned it somewhere. Another case of fans being kept in the dark. I agree with others who say that, per the rules, Thorssell should face a 28 day ban. We're having a sensible conversation here, your attempts to enflame aren't needed.

I agree rules should be followed. I'm sure Racers and Royals posted somewhere saying the BSPA had made an agreement to cover this situation this year? Why said agreement hasn't been included in the rules is another matter of course.

Spot on. Whilst the sport in this country continues to run as it is with a scattered fixture list it will never climb back to it's previous standing. It can't even arrange fixtures to avoid clashes between riders just racing in this country so there really is little hope.

I agree for the most part. For the past 10+ years the top flight has consistently weakened it's product. Crowds fall, weaken the product, crowds fall, weaken the product. It's an unsustainable model. It's not the whole issue, but it's part of it.

It is completely and utterly irrelevant regardless of how you dress it up. The significant difference with Tungate is his average was way below his actual level, Woffinden's as proved on track was about right. Both were signings made by teams who saw an opportunity to strengthen. If you want to bring 'morals' into it, it's hardly 'moral' kicking out Sedgeman who was doing his job and wasn't injured. No difference at all between the signings. There are many things wrong with the sport, these aren't part of it. Doubling Up is where folk should be looking as an example of eroding team identity.

Hypocrisy in the extreme. Woffinden's average was based upon a FULL season of racing. Entirely accurate and indeed he performed to a similar average after signing. Yet you have no issue with signing Tungate, on an average well below his ability based upon less than half a season with much of it spent riding in the No 1 spot.

Exactly. There were no 'friends' in this instance, just someone with a beef over Wolves signing Woffinden last season.. but strangely, no problem with signing Tungate.

Were your 'friends' angered when Tungate was signed?

Your 'friends' must have been really annoyed when Tungate was brought into the Belle Vue side then? You could have accommodated Worrall and Jacobs had you wanted too.

He's waiting for Darcy's first.

Kyle Howarth now missing for Wolves, chest infection. R/R. Masters and the reserves to take the rides.

Reserve

Some decent players coming in, Diego Jota could be a revelation.

Let's see if Sudden Sam can arrest the recent slide in results/performances.

I thought he meant the track produces inconsistent results, rather than it being inconsistent itself. Which is true for the NSS. No idea why you think it was 'amateur hour' either.

Not sure why you are so defensive, I was complimenting the track... i.e. 'it has set such high standards'.

There hadn't been, that was much better. The NSS has set such high standards I think we expect it most races.

It seems the only passing is when riders have locked up (Smith), got out of control (Fricke). Hope this gets better, very poor compared to what I've seen previously at the NSS.

Not sure we 'do well'. 56-37 46-44 50-42 54-38 All defeats.