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I think we're trying to fit in some of the top teams first. Despite the score there was some good racing tonight. Lakeside were unfortunate that AJ was suffering from food poisoning and he certainly would have scored more than r/r achieved. Kennett and Bridger had their moments and Lawson was solid but overall they were very poor and Jonsson would have only turned a mauling into a heavy defeat. It was one of those nights when every Belle Vue rider and King did well. There were no weak links anywhere, evidenced by only one last place. I doubt any team would have fared well against us.

Particularly so after his promise of openness and transparency, which I assumed was to relate to his Chairmanship from day one. No reason to delay that until 2017. I interpret that promise to mean keeping the fans fully in the picture. Like you I will reserve judgement until next year but I have seen nothing yet the inspires confidence in fact, just the opposite with his childish outbursts and disregard for Stars fans.

Not necessarily. Mear rode well on his last visit and Kerr should do better after his change of machinery. King is a good guest but unlikely to do as well as Fricke. Much will depend on which AJ turns up and how Kennett, on his first visit to the NSS and Nilsson perform. I think the Aces will win but it could be close if Aj is as good as he can be and Kennet takes to the wide open spaces.

It seems to have crept into some threads recently. It's a pathetic response to someone who happens to have a different opinion. If you disagree with a post then put forward a resoned argument why, not a response more suited to a junior school playground. Not a Bates fan then? I wasn't sure.

Tai Woffinden @TWoffinden @TheAces should be awarded best track in the UK would love to ride there every week bravo but until next time 8:11 am - 31 Jul 2016 Just to upset a certain Wolves fan. A brilliant final on a track that was a fitting stage for some of the world's best to show off their talent. After the rain on Thursday and Friday had made the perfectly smooth track too grippy I must admit some concern that it might still not be at its best last night but we had the sort of track many of us have now seen on a regular basis at the NSS. The track staff deserve full credit and particularly Colin Meredith. I understand that he retired last night so what an event to end on.

That was the poorest meeting I have seen at the NSS and I have attended every EL match, a few Colts meetings and the British Final. Not only was passing at a premium but there was generally significant spacing between riders and that is certainly not what we usually see. The explanation is as given by Philip Rising. The track was smooth, no bumps, no ruts and there was so much grip that riders of that quality were generally uncatchable. Let's hope the weather stays dry today and that we can see the sort of track we have seen for much of this season. It just shows that tracks with more grip are not necessarily conducive to good racing. The general organisation last night seemed to work well, no problems with parking and no queues to get into the stadium when I arrived. There were problems with the PA on the third and fourth bends so hopefully, the sound levels can be ramped up a bit tonight.

I think the Aussie team manager might be able to help them a bit with set ups.

The temporary East grandstand. Looking impressive. https://twitter.com/TheAces/status/756903917909409792

Wait until he's ridden at the NSS but he'll have to join the queue.

Steve Worrall has made significant progress and he deserves his place as a standby but people need to remember that his current average had been achieved mainly riding at reserve and as a second string whereas Cook is riding as a heat leader. Even then Cook's average this season at the NSS is almost half a point higher than Worrall's.

As riders have said, the track has been different match to match so, at the moment, they don't know what to expect. Against Swindon the inside line was best, at the British Final way out by the fence and against Leicester, Palm-Toft exploited a mid line. I don't see it as a track where there will ever be a big home advantage because it is too easy to ride and most seem to enjoy it but when it settles down home riders will know most weeks where the best grip and lines are likely to be and that will give them an edge. Our away record shows we are the best team in the league, we would beat almost everyone on a neutral track so or home record doesn't prove we have a home advantage. However Phil after your comments about the strength of the EL I assume your just joking ti get a reaction.

I enjoyed my visit to Brandon last night. A good crowd and some decent racing despite the poor referee. My first visit was in the 1960's and I have seen many memorable meetings there over the years. I sincerely hope last night wasn't my last visit and that something can be done to secure the future of the Bees.

King won the BF because the wet track made the best racing line out wide and King had the courage and skill to use it. Similarly at Cardiff he did nothing until the outside line developed. I suspect that the weather next week is not going to be wet and therefore not provide the conditions he needs to do well. I hope I am wrong and he does well. As for Cook it is a myth that he is not a racer. I have seen him chase and pass riders so many times. However, he has not yet ridden at his best this year but is still the right choice at the NSS. Some think Steve Worrall might have been a better choice. He has made fantastic progress, which he showed again last night but you cannot compare his scores as a second string to Cook riding as a heat leader.

I used to think the same but having seen a few matches go ahead at the NSS after a lot of rain with good racing and race times, particularly the last meeting against Leicester, I have changed my mind. The bikes can cope well if there is a good track shape and drainage. Obviously, there will be occasions when it will be just too wet or when it is raining during a meeting but there is now much more confidence at Belle Vue that meetings will go ahead.

I wouldn't claim 5 from 3 is brilliant but it's a decent score from a second and third heat leader away from home with the current race format where heat leaders race each other.

I think it depends whether we are going to suffer the backlash from the heavy defeat at Wolves. It looked as if Swindon had their gating boots on for the few races at the debacle at King's Lynn last night. On form this could be close with Aces to pick up at least a point. Zagar has ridden well recently, Steve Worrall is doing well as a second string, Fricke had a blip in his last home meeting but has been riding well everywhere and Cook has a point to prove to Rosco. Much will depend on how Scott and Richie W do, they've both struggled a bit recently.

Congratulations to the Aces on beating Wolves?

So you were expecting a sell out crowd of 10,000 to be able to park free in the streets outside the stadium? As Phil has said it is the Council that have arranged this and it is BSI event but the joke would have been if nothing had been done to solve the traffic and parking problems. £5 to park and a park and ride system strikes me as a professionally organised event for a stadium built within a couple of miles of a large City centre. If you really do want to park free I am sure a quick look on Google maps will reveal plenty of streets unlikely to have restricted access within reasonable walking distance but Gorton is not exactly a salubrious area.

Not every other promoter. Belle Vue have Max Fricke, Steve Worrall, Dan Bewley, Kyle Bickley, a NL team and the planned academy. That really is forward planning. The construction of the NSS took less time to build than it took Matt Ford to fill in that notorious hole on the first bend. Be afraid, be very afraid the times they are a changing.

I think the better description is deluded.

Lakeside have already tried that one without success because very few, if any, returned to pay the full cost and Belle Vue have tried reduced admission in the days of Gordon Pairman and just lost money. Sorry to disappoint but no. Doesn't really matter anyway with the excellent drainage.Lots of rain during the day of the last match and a downpour 20 minutes before the start but the track was fine.

Danny King?

I just wish the Belle Vue management had the wisdom to appoint Starman as a special consultant. So far he has given invaluable advice on the construction of the track, the supervisory role Colin Meredith should have played, the pointless purchase of track covers and now the futile pr of after meeting press conferences. No wonder Poole are so successful when Matt has such a valuable advisor to guide his every move.

Should be close. Wolves strengthened by the inclusion of Lambert and Masters should score more than r/r on their last visit but nobody missing for the Aces so should get 3 points. Be good to see PK, one of my all time favourites.

A bigger league. A home match every week giving 28+ home meetings a season. Keeping most of the team season after season. Local riders in the team. The old T/S rule. Last year I would also have added some of the other things mentioned but the NSS now provides a brilliant track where spectators can be close up to the racing and with the option to get covered in shale for those who want it.