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Selfish i know but after all the years of being the team picked to win the wooden spoon the last sentence of your post makes me feel so good .

How the hell can a reserve get a true average if there are still 2 protected heats.Am i right in thinking that if a reserve has 2 high scoring meetings that it is possible that his average could move him straight into a heat leader spot(ie Worrall scoring 15 points at wolves last year) ?.

Was starting to think i had bought my season ticket to soon but not now brilliant news.WELCOME BACK MATEJ .

There is a junior forum you could try no one has posted since Sept 2014 so i think you would fit in quite nicely there.

I was just talking about Swindon in my post but yes i agree with you a good few other teams will be able to fit him in as a second string.Along the same thought line i am expecting to see D Watt in the Poole team if as everyone agrees Buzz is a heat leader.

Thank you apology accepted.

Good god man its not about the option of watching speedway on telly or watching it live or the price,yes i know i have those options.I have already bought my season ticket and am looking at the best price options to have speedway on my tv i also had a few beers while doing it.But what i am saying is that after next year i and all the other fans of British speedway wont have many options to watch our patriotic British world champion live in the flesh in England as he has dropped his own country to ride in Europe.

You have missed my point its not about B T sport or money its about the fact that after next year at Belle vue unless i travel to Cardiff there is a good chance i my never see our patriotic British world champion ride again unless i see him on tv.I know there are a lot of other riders i may not see again but they are not British. Question whats the difference between Tai Woffinden and an Australian. Answer Most Australians are loyal to British speedway.

Thats my point after this year at Belle vue if i dont pay for B T sport i may never see our English world champ ever ride again.

If Swindon choose to have Zengi 7.79 in the team it does not matter if he is classed as a heat leader or not as you can't have him and fit another 2 heat leaders in the team having already signed Doyle 9.44 Sedgman 4.70 the two res combined 7.13 leaves you with 11.44 to play with.

It would seem it was Garritys choice to move up into the 1 to 5 team spot,and yes they could both move up or down depending on there averages

And Woffinden is just another one of them riders that ride over in Europe that i get to watch on the telly that is if i can afford B T sport this year.Opps silly me i will have to pay more but i will get to see him twice this year at Belle vue.

If you dont fancy the extra 6 meetings remember you can pay at the gate for the 14 Elite league meetings and it will cost you 50p less per meeting to stand up than it was last year.Not many fans of other clubs will be able to say this year is cheaper than last year.

The prices PTA has stated are for 20 meetings and play off semi if we get there.

If North held down a heat leader spot for 24 meetings in a strong Poole team then i would think that the powers that be will have him on the heatleader list.Also taking into account that the league looks like it will be lot weaker next season but time will tell,as always the fans get to know sod all until it happens.

Make your own minds up Buzz rode for Peterborougn in 2013 and finished on a 7.33 average.In 2014 he rode 8 meetings for Leicester in the no5 spot.

With Nick and Zengi back in the team you would have 4.74 for your last rider.

Soz not very well worded.I mean't to say Leicester with Zengot,Batchelor,Watt and Wozniak plus there two stronger reserves could end up being a better side than Swindon.It all depends on who they sign to ride with Doyle and as Leicester know very well a good number 1 is no good at all if the rest of the team lets him down. To add imo that team in a weaker league looks a more balanced Leicesrer team than the one they had this year.

With their good reserves i think that could end up being a better team than a top heavy Swindon side.Doyle on his own did not do Leicester much good last year did he.

Could you point out where you have seen this rule would like a look myself.

As a Belle vue fan i am sorry to loose Stefan he has been a good steady reserve for us over the last 2 seasons and imo is still improving.Best of luck Stefan.

Watt could be classed as a 2nd string 7.19 who knows but he fits.

At first i liked the idea of the draft it would give young British riders a chance to improve(that side of it i still like)But sadly with protected riders and random rule changes it has gone very wrong. It is now a massive factor in whether a team can win the league or not.Right from the start of the season fans know if their team has had a poor draft pick they have little chance of winning the league.In the past fans could hope that team changes could make a difference as the season goes on but now they know a draft pick change will make little difference. Lets look ahead to next season all within the rules but Poole have had a great draft pick.Down to good management we all know that Poole will put together a great 1 to 5.Every promoter in the league has a chance to work their socks off and sign a 1 to 5 just as good as Pooles but we all know if they have had a poor draft choice they are wasting their time because in most cases reserves win meetings. We all want to beat Poole its part of the buzz to beat the top team but at the momment the way the draft has worked out it will be harder than ever and because of their draft picks a lot ot teams from the off will know they have no chance.

I agree the use of their Elite league averages would seem unrealistic. I dont even know how they have worked out their draft list positions for the last 2 years but looking at the last green sheet list it seems to give a more realistic account of their Elite league performances than their Prem league average does.

Can anyone give me a reason why all of a sudden the BSPA decided to use Prem league averages to work out a riders position on the draft list instead of the system they have used for the last 2 years.The only changes were Garrity and Birks.There would have been no arguments with Howarth taking over the top spot vacated by Garrity and Sargent being in top spot in tier 2 on the last green sheet moving up to replace Birks.So i can see no reason why they had to change.Looking at the last green sheet the riders positions on that list would have given a much fairer 1st draft pick.So i can see no valid reason why they had to change it. Second question if they used the riders prem averages why was Sargent moved up to tier 1 when Starke who stayed in tier 2 had a 1 point higher average in the Prem league none of it makes much sence to me.