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This is not a gripe or a moan and Poole won fair and square.(and it will not stop me going)I am just trying to give an example why fans get p/d off. Facts Pooles reserves are a big reason why they finished top of the league.Pooles reserves won them the play off final out scoring Belle vues reserves by 29 to 10 over the 2 legs Now the so called rules of the FT system any team who has a reserve that proves himself to be one of the best performers in the Elite league(be it right or be it wrong its the rule) get penalised the following year by having a lower 2nd draft pick.I would think the idea behind this is to give every club a fair chance of some success. Now the part that ps people off starts.Remember just using the to 2 clubs as an example other clubs will have their own problems with the draft. By keeping the same draft rules that have been in affect all year due to their Elite league performances Newman was placed 2nd and Worrall 5th on the draft list(both teams choose to protect their assets in the 1st round draft) so Poole get 7th pick and Belle vue get 4th pick of the 2nd tier draft riders no one has a problem with that because they have been the rules all season. Now the problem starts they decide that the old rules are out and decide to use Prem league averages for the draft list positions.What this does is that it now places Worrall at no 2 and Newman drops to no 6 now giving Poole 2nd pick and Belle vue 7th pick this now gives Poole Ellis and Belle vue waiting to pick a much lower ranked rider and now that all team members count in the teams averages it also gives poole 0.72 more than Belle vue for top 5 team building.So this goes against all the previous rules of the draft system which was to try and keep teams even having seen what Pooles reserve did against Belle vues in the final it now makes Poole even stronger and Belle vue weaker. Now looking at this as a speedway fan and not a Poole fan can you see why people get a little p/d off with the powers that be in the sport.

One would think that we are returning to the old heat format with no protected heats(apart from heat 2 )Because you cant move a rider into the 1 to 5 with a false average gained from protected heats.I just wish they would release more details as to what is happening with our sport next year.

I think you have hit the nail on the head there Swindon have probably picked Nielsen.But if he re signs for Ipswich they ride on a Thursday as well so Belle vue are waiting in the wings.

Dont know but Kyle Newman is the man to ask about how many insects get in your eyes

On the last official FTR list Newman was placed in 2nd position if they use his prem average he drops to 6th

If Kennett (9.58) and King (9.54) who finished 2nd and 3rd highest averaged riders in the Prem league are on the list then i think that Cookie(10.35) should be a FTR as well lol

Sorry to say most of the Friday nights they dont race on are because they avoid them because of the GPs the next day. P S. Having had a re-think more and more GP riders are dropping the Elite league every year so by 2017 sadly Friday and Saturday nights might not be a problem anymore.

Provide some evidance that he has said that or troll off.Every team seems to have their own worries about who is and who is not comming back next year.

Who's saying that he is not-----?.

What would his average be just useing his last 20 meetings if that would count ?.

If there are no big heat leaders out there to replace Zagar C Cook 7.29 M Fricke 6.11 S Nicholls 6.48 M Michelsen 5.67 T Batchelor 6.91 (perhaps Mark Lemon could help get his head back on track) S Worrall 4.82 A N Other 3.00 40.28 A good few riders that should have the potential to up their averages. Would like a top no1 but with the heat leader shortage this sort of team may be the only way to go.

Sadly the way its looking Holder,Andersen and Watt would be a good top three.

So that proves my point then there is no money in the sport for big transfer fees and the asset system is out dated and riders will ride where they want.

I dont think you get that with the state of the Elite league big transfer fees are a thing of the past. I would think that any top rider who wants to ride over here will be able to ride for any club they want the SCB will just be glad they are willing to ride over here With Nicholls it will be his 2nd year of a 2 year deal so Coventry will have agreed to that last year.

Who in their right mind would pay out big money for a 35 year old.You also have to take into account that clubs just dont have that sort of money these days. As i said in my 1st post Belle vue have bought the only type of rider that is worth buying these days young Brits.For a few reasons the FTR system, they would not have cost that much,there is a good chance that they will ride in Britain for all there carrier and if they dont use them over the years they will get more than their money back in loan fees.

Who in their right mind will pay out a transfer fee these days(unless its for a young Brit to give a club a good FTR rider) When your post proves that riders will ride where ever they want to.Plus any rider at any time can just decide not to ride in the Elite league anymore.The asset system just does not work anymore.The only benefit from it these days is a loan fee.

Well done to Tai on his 2nd title and Well done to Greg on his win today. Is it just me or has the GP lost a little of its edge let me explain why i think so.Over the years there has always been 2/ 3 riders that stand a chance of winning the title. This year did anyone at any time think that Tai would not win it ?.His only challengers were two older statesmen Greg and Nicki who in the end finished well behind him.There are a few riders with long term potential but not ready for a few years yet.If time catches up with Greg and Nicki next year who out of the remaining GP riders could really challenge Tai for me no one yet.The 2 riders that could have challenged Tai are lost to the GP one for the worst reason possible Darcy Ward(boy will that guy be missed)and Emil Sayfutdinov who for some reason is showing no interest in riding in the GPs. It should be Tai,Darcys and Emils time to be the 3 great challengers for the title but for the reasons above this is sadly not to be and the GP is not a patch on what it could be with them all in it.

I dont know but i would think that if he does ride in Poland he would start with a 2nd division club their team places seem to be a bit more secure. He would join riders like M Fricke,H Andersen,F Lindgren,T Batchelor,D North and D Watt to name a few who already ride in said division.All riders he has beat many times in the Elite league so i think that he would do very well over there. P.S just found out myself for others that did not know.On 11.10.15 Cookie took part in an open meeting at Krakow a 2nd division club.He finished 2nd in the meeting scoring 10 points he beat P Dudek in a heat but finished 2nd behind him in the final.I think he may get a few offers after that result

The way i see it if Cookie stays at Edinburgh he cant ride in Poland(as stated in above article) so he will have to find another Elite league club.Which is fine for next year but he only has one year left where he will be allowed to double up.After that he has to choose to move up or stay in the prem league.If he stayed in prem league then not enougth meetings as he cant ride in Poland.So if he has a chance now to ride in Poland he would be imo daft not to take it,the chance might not be there the year after.So for me he has to take the chance if he has a good season in the Elite league and in Poland(where he will earn more per meeting) then there is a chance a Swedish team may show some interest.Its the only way he has a chance of earning a good living in the long run because if he stays with Edinburgh in the prem league all he will have is prem league meetings and as he says not enougth meetings to earn a living.Only my opinion which ever way he chooses i wish him the very best of luck and i will always be a big fan of his.

Have i read this right Rosco in this article says that all the FTRiders are averaged out does this mean that the 2nd tier will be as well instead of an automatic 3 point average.Much fairer if this is the case as teams will have to pick a tier 2 rider that fits into there teams combined average total and not 1st pick gets the best.eg Starke 3.60 Clegg 2.30.

Janowski.Watt and North out.Kasprzak Andersen and Kurtz in ?

We will have to wait and see on that one i hope you are right. Re who is 2nd on the list according to the last Prem league green sheet Worral has an average of 8.04 and Auty an average of 8.00 Good point if the pick for the tier 2 rider stays the same that would give us the chance of keeping Nielsen as Richie would be near the bottom end of the tier 1 list.On the other hand he could replace Steve as our FTR rider not a lot of difference in them on the track.I like your idea though i would be happy to have them both in the team.

If the FTR pick is the same as last year and you choose to keep Jason(which i am sure you will) wont you then get last pick of the 2nd tier riders if so do you think you will still get Sargent.Sadly it is the same for us now with the new average system for the 1st draft. S Worrall moves to 2nd on the list and we will have no chance of re signing Nielsen i am sad to say. Even the other promoters help them get riders on fake low averages re dropping Newman from 2nd to 6/7th on the FTR tier one list allowing them to pick a far better rider from tier 2

If Poole have started signing riders then you would think that the promoters know the heat leader list already.So why the hell have they not let the fans know.By not doing so it just causes fans to speculate and in the end tends to pi$$ the people off who they want to pay their money at the turnstiles same old b/s every year .

If the same as last year then they can choose to reserve one. But sorry what has that to do with the point of my post.