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May I just say that the many fundamental mistakes and large chunks of irrelevant material you mention in the Fay Taylour book are also symptomatic of Hammerin' Round. That's before we start on the plagiarism.......

You wouldn't want to read my review of "Hammerin' Round"!

Yes, I always find that best....

Dôð TWK ðêah ð¯ær duguð spr¯æc pron ðe ic hwæðere cûðe hlêoðorcwide angelic ðætte.... [The problem is TWK that if language didn't change and progress we'd all still be speaking like this.]

Could I add to that list: Speedway in East Anglia Speedway in London Speedway in the South East Two Wimbledon Legends Wembley Speedway - The Pre-War Years Speedway's Classic Meetings 75 Years of Eastbourne Speedway Norwich Speedway All jolly good books.

He was Australian.

What about Nigel Boocock, Sidney?

I bumped into Colin on the platform of Oxford Circus Station about 12 years ago. We chatted a bit till his train came in. Just thought I'd mention it......

I've just had my latest Royalties statement for Pie 'n' Mash & Prefabs. Between July and December 2016 it sold a further 3305 copies, making a total now since it came out of 20,969.

Ove Fundin and Barry Briggs. Enemies on the track; friends off it.

I think it's all a bit shrouded in the mists of time, Rob. There are various claims and counter-claims about where speedway started but it depends to a great extent on what we mean by speedway. There are many examples of motor cycles racing round oval tracks from America, Australia, Ireland, Great Britain, Austro-Hungary and South Africa amongst other places from the late 19th century onwards. If we mean sliding round dirt tracks with no brakes, the earliest actual description I have come across is of Don Johns in 1914: “Don Johns preferred to barnstorm the 1-mile dirt track circuits of California and the Midwest, gaining experience as well as a reputation as the hardest fighting rider in the no-holds-barred game. By 1914, Johns had improved to such an extent that the Excelsior could not hold him. He would ride the entire race course wide open, throwing great showers of dirt into the air at each turn.” "Wide open", "showering dirt into the air". Sounds like speedway as we know it, though perhaps the length of the circuit might rule it out. But, who knows, he may not have been the first. He may have learnt his art from some as yet undiscovered rider or riders and we are still waiting for that all important contemporary first hand or news report to turn up What is certain is that there was some form of recognised speedway in both America and Australia well before the West Maitland meeting of December 1923!

Don Johns, American, and very probably speedway's, original pioneer:

Well I guess the real American pioneers were the likes of Don Johns and Albert 'Shrimp' Burns, who were sliding round dirt tracks from as early as 1914, followed by Maldwyn Jones and Eddie Brinck round about 1920 with their famous pendulum skid. The Americans pre-dated anything that was going on in Australia. As far as speedway as we more or less know it goes, the American pioneers would have to be Sprouts Elder and Art Pechar who rode in this country in the late 1920s. When the Milnes and Wilbur Lamoreaux later came to Britain in the 1930s, along with many other Americans, it has to be said that they became an established part of the British speedway scene. In the early post War years (late 1940s and 1950s), there were the likes of Ernie Roccio and Nick Nicolaides, Of course there have been some gap years, but the tradition of American riders certainly goes much further back than Scott Autrey and DeWayne Keeter.

"Here’s something I bet you didn’t know. The first ever speedway race was held in Maitland, about two hours north of Sydney, on the 15th of December 1923." Oh dear! Mind you, the article does go on to give the Amercans some credit for "inventing" the sport, but not that it was already an Australian spectacle before 15 December 1923.

If it hadn't have been for me and my mate, John, those attendances would have been 11,998 and 14,998!

Thank you, Tb. It's shot up the charts again today!

If you say so, Doug. Let's all agree that Ole Olsen was the greatest rider that ever lived and Jack Parker was useless. How's that?

Vic Duggan resigned the title because he said he wasn't interested in defending it and didn't want to be nominated again, as gustix said, I don't know why he came to this decision but that's why he wasn't nominated again.

Yes, but as you already pointed out above, these were under two different systems. You can't compare them just by numbers. In answer to you previous question I believe the old monthly 2 out of 3 challenge was best. You could build up the excitement, you knew you were going to have two riders worthy of the challenge, whereas under the newer system, the best rider in the world might never get a chance.

Yes, that's correct.

I think mine was Barry Briggs v. Ove Fundin in 1960 at New Cross. Fundin absolutely destroyed Briggo, breaking the track record and also breaking the old track record in the second race. The time of 57.0 stood till New Cross closed in 1963.

Oh, you did see me then. No sense in wasting a good outfit.

They weren't my team then.

Very well put, chr. I have been trying to rack my brains thinking of one but so far none come to mind!