Tsunami

Surely as time goes on, the stadium will be sold, or lose the P & P to run speedway through protests as the last house owners get united against it. One would think that the promotion needs to be very active, and have an alternative in this year, in case it is forced on them for next year.

One would have thought that if the decision to proceed with the deal is quite a fresh one, little consideration would have been given to the need for a highlights show, with the possibility of not even covering it next year. It would have been an anathema to build the sport up during a highlights show, but to end the proggie with "but we are covering next year folks."

I would keep it with Anton in at 5. He needs to look after himself from the off, rather than comforting the reserve in their 3 races together. This 'thinking for himself' start to the year will do him well for when he goes to the number 1 position in the second month, replacing Ludde. Anton's average can rise significantly as all his scores will count, but Ludde's will be with dropping off some decent scores, and being replaced by decent scores so his improvement will be graded longer.

We need folks, but we don't need enemy's from within, who seem to now have a death wish on a sport that he was employed in to good effect for most of his life. If his love affair with Speedway, and later Stocks, has now ceased, he should just go quietly and pick up on something else. Like a bad apple it/he does effect the rest of us, who are dedicated to the sport and would help in any way for it to continue.

Thing is but, if you haven't got it or don't want to subscribe, you don't. That's your choice, and you are not demanded to do so. If promotions didn't tell you of the consequences, and then closed, you might feel inclined to have been advised, that's all. After the losses of the last two years with the weather, you could think we were lucky to still have speedway, so asking for a bit help doesn't seem unreasonable. Especially when you not compelled to help. Given the current trading situation, and receiving a reduced amount from SKY, and most clubs already having make the effort and bought their fence either now or in the past, why should any money go to the IOW, especially when it as a business that does not seem very viable. If the IOW got it, what about putting the rest of money into keeping Peterborough Speedway going for another team and keeping the venue open for the FIM type meetings in this country. Where does it stop.

But it didn't work for forums I see. Just joking.

Aye, every morning for him.

My bets on Matt.

No, he would rather just 'like' any tripe that others post on here Bryn. Sad to see an olden going off it, why doesn't he just get out speedway. He obviously does't like it now and has nothing to add to it.

Yes, and this is the **** that loves his speedway and thinks he knows how it should be improved, and slags anything and everyone off who is involved with it. Just the sort of 'fan' we could afford to lose. Yet he would expect you to listen to , or read his rants. Consistant mind, he has the same style and obnoxious tendencies on every subjects, try reading him in General Discussions. Second thoughts, don't.

Must admit I clicked on your link hoping to see the alternative adult sites. Oh well.

He can't 'remain' as a 3 as you say, cos he has not formally been given a 3 point average. No doubt there has been word passed back to Gary. and he can appeal with his case for a 3, or go with Brady at the right average & drop someone else, or thirdly he could be dropped and another rider take his place. I remember a club a few years ago continue to appeal a certain riders case and, when they lost, as everyone was telling them, they had to scrap around to get someone that fitted the average, but one who would not have been a first choice for anyone. Similarly Newcastle waited for a final fitness test on Jason KIng till the very last minute, but we managed to extricate ourselves quite nicely. Risky, as the BSPA do not always indicate your 1-7 is acceptable, till quite near the start of the season, so you need to be quite sure with all your assumptions.

With the EL teams, factor in the £90k bung from SKY and higher fan levels in most case, and there's your answer. The EL teams have higher expenses and higher income levels.

Only an idiot, and non supporter, would suggest that if fans had been to asked to help a club survive financially, the club should go to the fold. Firstly, if they are asked they always have the right to say no. Secondly, if it is to buy a brick, or purchase a ticket for a prize or money, again it is for them to consider participating in such an event. There has been some great and novel ways used to raising money this year, and it has galvanised a lot of fans who wanted to help their club. The EL did hold meetings when riders rode for free to buy the first air fences. Unfortunately, the facts of life are that the PL riders only get paid about a quarter of the EL wages so, to help pay for the new air fences for 2014, each team would have needed to run 4 free meetings. Which nobody would have gone to because they really would not have raced to their full ability. So instead inventive people devised events and competitions for people who wanted to participate in. And still 'sensible' people moan.

Quite agree that this issue is about the riding in a senior professional League in Denmark. The OZ titles bit is mainly an expectation thing, and usually to give an indication as to what he thinks he is, an OZ or a Brit.

Total bollocks, Mr 'Sensible".

You could also say that about 10 years ago as well, and even more importantly, not investing the money in stadia when the big money was being made in say the 80's. There was big money in them days and the current situation is our legacy because of poor investment. EL promoters caved in to the hiked demands of the big lads when the first SKY was signed, and spiralled the costs of all riders. These are the real culprits, not the current ones who in many cases pay to give us Speedway. It is mostly subsidised now, and I am sure you would agree, telling others to invest more, is a damn site easier that actually doing it. The first signs of reality to get rid of foreign expensive riders has started, with the EL protected reserves initiative, but when they do take these steps, the usual suspects decry any actions even when the promoters do do something about the problems. Promoters are well aware things need to be done, but they can only do what they and the sport can afford.

Very true, never gave it a thought. What happens if it is yellow/blue.

Mystery that one. Newport/Somersets is at the Northside training track, Peterboroughs is apparently at Mildenhall, and I can't think that anybody else's has replaced theirs. Only one I can suggest is that they may have bought Peterbroughs new one. If true, it probably means they are not running and the 5 interested parties can't proceed.

Bound to be, as a sport can't be turned around in one season, not even by you. The 'grim reaper' target is also a one we will all be approaching, including you and me.

Yes, I have seen it, and I implied that on another thread, But hey ho. I read the document and passed it back to it's keeper. "not really - its just credit - they'd have to pay it back" Credit loans were offered by Paul Ackroyd, of the Riders Benevolent Fund, to pay for the new fences, and some teams including Redcar have taken advantage of a low interest loan. Are you saying he wouldn't have been hurt with no air fence, or are you aware that comments were made at the time regarding the fixing of the fence.

Let's hope so.

You and your 'friend' gustix are both wrong. An NL team gets a sum for early training of a rider, and a PL team, would get either a loan fee or a transfer fee, the same as in the football PL.

Move on, for your own sake.

I agree. In the case of Henning I think he eventually got a 5 which was still a bit high for him. Henning only rode 2 meetings as a reserve, to see how he did and then he came over to the UK. If Brady has done 12 + 2 meetings in Danish leagues, he should get a higher average.