Hawk127

Could one answer to the question of a condensed season for conventional speedway be for teams to run using current machines and call it formula one and those clubs who want to see costs reduced adopt the formula 2 machines. I guess most riders have more than one bike so to have a high spec machine for F1 and an F2 machine costing less in maintenance etc. could be a way to keep riders happy with regular meetings from an income perspective, supporters who want a weekly fix with two tier admission depending on the formula. Standard F2 machines could attract mainstream engine manufacturers as sponsors. Something needs to be done to try and keep all parties interested particularly in the summer months but those making the rules must insist that for F1, the cut off dates will not change so league fixtures/standings as at the end of the first week of September will determine the teams in the playoffs which must take place in the second and third week of September and the final in the fourth week. F2 will be a straight forward league format with the top team being crowned champions. F2 could run a cup competition or something like an 4TT and/or a nationwide individual U.K. championship open to home based and overseas riders.

For that to happen the Witches would need some Polish riders to be drafted into the team or Leon Madsen to have nothing better to do with Emil and Artem at reserve. Sadly the reality is damaged limitation for Ipswich or should I say set a target of plus 30 points in the next leg to avoid total embarrassment.

Agree very worthy champions. Ipswich represent abject failures. They do deserve criticism given the manager who is not a motivator failed to instil any fight in a team that are mostly also rans. A spectacular failure as a final and from a T V event. The only chance Ipswich have is if most of the Swindon team cannot get to the stadium on Thursday. Feel sorry for the Swindon supporters who would have wanted a challenge to finish off the league season not a submission which is likely.

Well done Swindon. You wanted it more. Hawkins you are a real dick head.

That is generous. At leat a lot of support will not bother travelling. Waste of time.

Ipswich should save the petrol money and not bother driving to Swindon on Thursday. Unless you believe in miracles they will get slaughtered.

Yep done and dusted. As some have said, they the witches are just not good enough and wholesale changes are needed starting with the manager and then five of the seven riders. Start from scratch in 2020 assuming they come to the tapes.

Totally agree with you.

All as expected. Danny King and most of the team are past their best at this level and you read Danny’s articles about passion for Ipswich. Total crap. Well done Robins. Deserved Champions and why bother with Thursday.

Confirmed that Witches are on the slippery slide to oblivion. Oh well always next year. You just have to ask yourself when did you last see an Ipswich team with real fight in it. Not since the glory year with Gollob etc.

A rider leans in as some comes up the inside and knows that his opponent is going to get excluded particularly where he has enough racing room to bail out and snare the other rider. Very clever.

Perhaps to make it more of a competition the final should with the top four finishers in a four team tournament over the four legs and that way you have the league winners and then the championship winners. That should pack out the stadiums.

Cannot see this being the witches year. Unlike Swindon who see up for it Ipswich by comparison are along for the ride but that is it. No fire in their belly and sadly the underdogs tag is spot on. If they get a home win they will at least save some face but without a good kick up the backside this team will let the town and County down.

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Unlike Poole who thought they had won it before they even got to Foxhall for the second leg, Swindon will not be so complacent and with Ipswich being discounted and by some and not worthy of being finalists before a wheel has turned, all critics should wait and see, this speedway and nothing is certain. The witches are in the final and you have to be in it to win it unlike those on the south coast who will get another chance next season (assuming both are in the same league). Both finalist have a chance and let the real talking be done on the track. Whatever the result, one thing for sure, the sport needs wholesale changes and a serious inward look at itself to decide where it is going. Failure to have a condensed season over four/five months and regular weekly meetings means you end up with meetings like Wolves had and others that have gone before. No excuses, it is a summer sport and the main programme of league racing should be conducted in those months with other meetings before and after. One other point to consider, would racing be different if riders had been taking part in ‘Filler meetings’ to keep racing fit. Perhaps individual meetings and challenge matches do have some value afterall.

It is no excuse but to have such long gaps between finishing the league and the play offs with little or no racing in between and then have the rain affected conditions etc. ( rain being no one’s fault except the the organisation which is piss poor and down to the BSPA having no back bone) will inevitably lead to poor meetings such as those witnessed over the last two nights. When will the powers that be recognise the fact that the season should run from May until August and the finals in September. Build teams with riders who can commit to that schedule. I feel sorry for the Wolves fans who have been badly let down but these circumstances could be avoided if only things were organised better. Having said that Swindon had a job to do and you can only race what is in front of you. Good luck to both teams next week and let’s hope for some close racing. Runaway meetings does nothing for the sport.

Now number 10 in the Hardback non fiction according to the Times on Saturday. Does not state how many sold but the fact that it is in the chart is something

Both sides contributed in their own way and whatever anyone thinks it was nip and tuck whether by design or otherwise and i will admit that I thought the witches had let themselves, the supporters and the town down on Thursday and based on the hype and Poole’s ability to pull the proverbial rabbit out of the hat most including me expected Poole to take it on aggregate. Ipswich take a bow for what was achieved last night and hearty commiserations to Poole who fought throughout the season and deservedly finished top of the league. All teams know the score and whilst Ipswich may be the first to knock out the team at the head of the leader board and it may be a bitter pill for Poole to swallow, it is what it is and hopefully both teams will come to the tapes in 2020 and live to fight another day. Many a supporter who have lost their teams despite the success can but envy what both the pirates and the witches have achieved. Good luck to Ipswich in the final and we look forward to welcoming Poole to Foxhall next year.

A disgrace but modern day Witches riders have no conviction. Go back to the days when it was an honour to represent Ipswich and tonight would never have happened. That lead would have seen them through.Shame on all who think they did a good job. Poole deserve to be in the final.

Unfortunately the Witches have capitulated. Hawkins is not up to the job and of they want any success going forward he should be fired. The riders also need to think on there feet. Shame to give away such a lead but that is Ipswich for you only they could cock it up and will stand no chance if they make the final.

Totally agree. An awesome race with eight riders going from two gates. A great shame and frankly it really did not matter if it was not top draw riders it was the spectacle of those eight riders. Those were the days. I am sure you could get the riders to compete but maybe not those currently in this league who probably think it is beneath them. I know one or two who would put in some prize money of say £250 to £500 for the winner but it is probably not enough with the gate money to make attractive. Another part of the sport consigned to history.

You mean he will not be going for glory in the 16 Lapper or has that now been cancelled so Thursday is the last meeting? I guess you always have next year if they survive the winter of discontent. Long live the witches but no as we know them!!

Are you aware of the reasons it has been pulled from the schedules? Having looked a couple of the TV listings produced by the weekend papers they show the match as being on BT sport. It is bad enough the promoters/BSPA regularly don’t give a fig about the paying public but to have your main broadcaster jump on the bandwagon is taking the. P.... I guess this sums up the state of things, the punter really does not count at any level and you pays your money and it is a gamble what you get in return.

NKI did his job but the rest seem to be lacking in certain quarters. Oh well always next year and history repeats itself. The glory days really have fled the heath and no matter what CL tries on the track the aspirations are thwarted by mediocrity and also rans and I am not referring solely to tonight but over the season where the likes of CH should have been shown the door but perhaps he has a ‘golden handcuffs ‘ clause in his contract. Either way, apart from a miracle, the witches have shot themselves in the foot. Still we always have the 16 Lapper unless they bottle that one as well. Where has it all gone so badly wrong both in terms of status as well as meetings.

Is the manager really that clueless? Why oh why does Louis (supposedly in charge) not do what any right minded individual would do? A sad indictment of how a great name like Ipswich has plummeted in a once decent sport which unfortunately has little credibility left and partly because of one mans ambition to keep a third rate higher division going at any cost. Speedway in this country is not on the same level as most overseas nations and should by now have learnt to plough its own furrow. Each club suffers from irregular weekly speedway which affects the form of many riders (albeit double up helps but also raises the risk profile for a team) fixed race nights are a failure as far as numbers through the gate is concerned (you have the odd exception) and more often than not each meeting is a team of either six men plus Mr R/R thereby short changing the paying public or you have rider select. Little wonder even the stalwarts are walking away. Also rans is how to sum up the witches and they might just as well have a clear out now as they have little else to commend the continuation in the current league structure. Buy in an overseas rider by all means but get rid of the dead wood in the team.