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THIS ! represents a perfect opportunity for Speedway Ltd to make a statement. As we know the recent efforts of the "Yorkshire Dukes" enthusiasts to re-introduce Speedway to the area and Odsal specifically floundered. Not for reasons that agreement could not be reached with the Owner -Bradford Council or the Leaseholders - the RFL or the tenants - Bradford Bulls - or the means of the Yorkshire Dukes group. It floundered simply because a viable way of maintaining the Rugby pitch to statutory size whilst running the Speedway track around the perimeter could not be arrived at. In part on a cost effective solution to managing the corners. That was the issue that stalled the Yorkshire Dukes project. So now with the Rugby team departing and Odsal vacant this is a unique opportunity for Speedway to show some faith in itself and collectively understand the importance of returning the sport to one of its most iconic and traditional venues. Time after time after time after time Speedway has surrendered it territory to planners, developers, and environmental lobbiests. So much of Speedway's "infracstructure" has been taken from it relegating it in the public consciousness as nothing more than a "spareland past time" The National Stadium at Belle Vue is a fantastic dedicated venue for Speedway. But if we could show some faith and reclaim Odsal Bradford and Coventry over the coming months - that will represent a significant "fight back" against constant "negativity" surrounding the sport and its future direction. Is it beyond the wit of Speedway GP and British Speedway to sieze upon this great opportunity and to work together to recover both Odsal and Brandon as "National Speedway" venues within "City limits" in the North and Midlands to stage "calendered events". The SGP, The World Cup, shared BSPA events ?. Then work with local groups such as the Yorkshire Dukes and Coventry Bees to establish regular domestic Speedway and Speedway/Motorcycle training centres. How effectively can the SGP show install itself into stadia around the World ? Very effectively. Odsal Stadium is not in the best of shape, but its a long way from being unihabitable v the sparten facilites offered at most tracks around Britain. The World Class Odsal Speedway circuit is still there! albert the shale and perimeter fence has long since disappeared. There is substantial covered seating, and the large hospitality suite overlooks the track and infield. Yes there is some work needed on the Rooley Lane end terrace but that is cosmetic and could be reasonably made good. But it is all there IF IF ! Speedway shows a bit of vision and belief in itself. To me what a brilliant opportunity this is and I would urge Speedway and Motorsport people generally - including Stock Cars, Flat track, MX to grasp this contact Bradford Local Authority and work together to secure the future of the likes Odsal Bradford, Brandon Coventry and Cowley Oxford for the future Speedway generation. If in future I hear those in power bemoaning Speedways in a poor state and not one single one of them explored the opportunity Odsal Bradford presents. Then sorry; which one of us is going to listen or even be bothered about it ?.

Trying to think of a stop gap for Danny ? I keep thinking is it "Crazy Frog" time ? Rob's often flirted with the idea of Berge at Scunny ?

Thats a massive blow firstly to Danny, arguably the most improvex British rider in 2019. Irreplaceable at both Scunny and Mildenhall.

Well if we had not made this switch I don't know what more Ben Barker could have done to make us make this switch ?. His form so far indicates he is the long long overdue No1 scorer here there and everywhere we have needed for many a long season !. Seems the chance for Jason Garrity to pick up the ride at Brummies has also fallen at the right time and everyone moves on with best wishes and thanks for their efforts. Having already secured the standout rider of the season in Danny Ayres; in Ben Barker we have an exciting signing that can make the difference especially away from the EWR. Josh; Jake; Ben; Danny that's a four that can mix it with the best of them. Throw in Stephan; Simon and Ryan and if we can stay fit we should be good for a play-off spot ! Well done the management for securing Ben Barker as a Scorpion.

I agree with another poster that the way things have worked out; throws the onus on Scunny to win this meeting ? Ben Barker should have no problem hitting double figures; he's already showing that he can be the big hitter away from home that we have lacked for a long time, Danny should be a big plus round Redcar. However record shows we don't travel well. It needs Jake more like himself and for Josh to do himself justice away from the EWR, and then we can be in business, If Lambert and Kinsley get amongst it and they should ? then I can't see the depleted Bears shoring this up ? Have to say if we do get done by a 4 man team then it will have been a proper "calamity caper"

In over a month of zero action at the EWR it beggars belief that we have not sorted out the replacement for Josh Bailey ? I get it that its all about finding someone to fit into the overall averages. But does it not show up completely the ridiculous nature of team averages in a sport that has precious few available competitors who can do a job and yet some of them are left on the sidelines for 0.20 of a point of something daft ?. I know whoever it was we signed would not have ridden for us as it turns out but with a blank fixture schedule in the interim to be calling up guests is bonkers ?. Also with Garrity ? surely there comes a point where we make a decision in the short to medium term interests of the club ?. This all said if its Steve Worrall and Ryan in on Friday that's something good out of the mess at least.

Yeah I did.. but I'm out of practice with Speedway its been a long time .....

I fear this is not going to go well ? Auty out Jake out Garrity out Bailey bailed out. A month without any racing at Home then have to cobble a team together for Newcastle away ? Is it just me or has your interest wained for this season ?.

No ones fault obviously but kinda knew this would happen. With nothing next Friday either and next meeting scheduled 21 June ! That will be nigh on 5 weeks without a wheel turned in anger at Scunny. And this supposed to be the height of the speedway season. Its hardly got going at all ? and thats not purely down to rain offs ?. If I look back to my Halifax days promoter Eric Boothroyd would very probably have staged 10-+12 home fixtures by this time of the year. Scunny have managed six this far. It feels like the season has never really got underway. This and the difficulties being experienced with the team; injuries; retirements and no shows.

I know it's turned out a poor weekend so it's kinda worked out ?. But with Rob talking about bringing Jedd List back end of June and there being "few meetings" inbetween. Plus the start stop of the past month ?. How's this supposed to keep up momentum and interest in the Speedway season ? Remembering back to my time at Halifax and The Shay fixture card was jam packed with meetings ! We used to stage 30+ meetings per season with crowds regular up around 3-4 thousand on a Saturday. People fill the gap when there's no Speedway and it becomes habit to kick the habit ?

Don't think so ? We've already signed Jordan Palin for 2020 cannot see Rob doing that and not seeing him out on track at Scunny..he's going to be a rider is JP !

And I agree totally ! As I said "I get why we signed Danny Ayres" and hes been a great signing. If Robs plan works out then fine by me. My point was that Jedd was hung out to dry really. No chance of finding his feet. If we can get hIm in at Reserve with Ryan K them no pressure as Ryan has shown he can rise to this level. I bet we will see Jedd develop once he gets a fair chance. Hes got to be given the time to learn the tracks. But for sure I am 100% in agreement on Danny.

Í wouldnt read too much into how things ran for Jedd at Dredcar ? It was never top of Ryan's List ! of Tracks to go to in his time as a Scorpion either was it ? I'm backing Jedd to emerge as a rider if and when he gets the chance to prove it ?

Report in the Star that Rob has approached Jedd List about a return to the team at the end of June. Ironic that we have to eat humble pie and ask Jedd (so ruthlessly cast aside) to consider a return. No idea about team Averages going up to 40 min in July did you ? I got the idea of Danny Ayres for Jedd. But he should never have been brought 12000 miles across the globe on the pretext of a team place and hung out to dry on a 4pt assessed average in the difficult No4 jacket ! ?. Aussies over the years have taken time to emerge. If promoters down the years had never showed patience with new Aussies you would never have heard of the like of Crump, Sanders or Adams etc...?.What you get from a Aussie who has crossed the world to ride Speedway in the UK. Is a focus and commitment because that's what they're here to do ! So I'm pleased there's a possibility that we might see the promise of Jedd List emerge albeit it later than expected. He has shown glimpses of the rider he can be if given the chance. Even so I hear it may not be as simple as Jedd "jumping to our tune" and he may already be on the radar of a rival track for an immediate place ?.

Question ? If your a Speedway rider and you break down on the way to a meeting. Aren't the 6 other riders with vans making their way there as well. Plus a handful of Scunthorpe management personnel ? It's not as if Garrity broke down and Auty pulls up in a beat up old Austin A40 ! ? And that used to happen when riders broke down on route. Other riders threw their gear in the back and they made the Meeting. There were no mobiles or sat nav either to pin point where Garrity actually broke down ? So it's all a bit implausible or unprofessional or both ?

I think Tero Aarnio is a great option. Would that give us the option to recall Jedd List at reserve with Ryan K and press the reset button again?

Careful not to jump to any conclusions ?But if so then that's a concern surely you cannot have a scenario where a rider turns up if he fancies it and not if he doesn't ?. As I say let's wait to hear the full tale ?. But not with standing Danny aside the riders have let themselves and the paying public down here. It's damaging also to the business of Scunthorpe Speedway when the club tries to do the right things to bring people in. It cannot be a case of turning up when you fancy it ? You have to be professional do your job and the fans will back you come what may. Things do happen in Speedway to skew a result injury etc.. we all know that. But to be unprofessional (and as I say this is only what I'm reading on here) then whoever it is would be letting everyone down. You need 14 riders who will make that meeting a great watch for everyone who paid. Then regardless of the result everyone comes away a winner !. We await the inquest with interest ?

As if it could get worse ? It has! realised we didn't lose by 40pts we lost by 44 !!! Forty Four ! In old 13 heat currency that a 61-17 panning ! ...something needs to give ? That's the worst effort of any team I've ever been associated with. Can't dress it up it's a disgrace to the Club and anyone who travelled needs some form of recompense ? It's not even a meeting is it ? Only Danny Ayres comes out of it with any credit ?.

Reading this result and without getting hysterical I have to think that this is very damaging to our season ? No Auty? No Garrity ? a long tail ? and a right old 40pt thumping! . Rob acted without sentiment in axing Jedd List I so to be consistent he has to show no sentiment and consider his options? . I would like to see a scenario where we could reinstate Jedd List at reserve-is that even possible ? How about Aarnio in for Garrity ? Or how about a call to Zane Keleher an Aussie who is chasing a UK ride ? As I say if only to be seen to be consistent with his ruthless decision on Jedd he has to act after such a damaging outcome at Edinburgh ?

If Danny Ayres scores 2 points over the next three meetings (not inconcievable ?) and not being disrespectful. But if he did ? where are we going with this ?.

Quote: "We know what we're getting from our top four, so the excitement for me comes with Jedd List. I'm not saying he's going to be an overnight sensation because he's not, but he will be another quality rider from the other side of the world. He is the punt in the team but he will win races. There's no pressure on him at all but if he can score five or six a meeting that's all what we want him to do".

If this is a team change already ? It's really unfair ! unless circumstances have come into play ?

Disappointing result for the Scorpions. But we shouldn't panic we need to give our young riders the space to settle in to Championship Speedway. I'm sure we will do. You cannot lose a rider like Jake Allen without impact ? His rides yielded two points under IRR he would surely have been good for 4 times that and a nominated Ht15. So likely a more respectable 54-36 If everyone's standing. Lions have a good top 4; as indeed do Scunny so this competition is going to be won in the "minor team positions". How well will the young riders coming up from NL cope with CL Speedway ?. It's going to be interesting finding out and as I have stated I do firmly believe that promoters have to resist making changes if early results don't work out.

Really enjoyed our first meeting yesterday at Sheffield. Lots to enthuse about because we might have faced a Tigers barrage !. But we were unlucky not to take a point for our efforts ! Given that Tigers had more "track time" on Owlerton 41-49 was pleasing. Jake Allen after a first race fall got right on it leading the score card with 13. With Scorpions providing 8 of the 15 heat winners. Stefan Nielsen came up with two of them and Josh Auty & Jason Garrity both weighed in with 8 & 7 respectively. Got to say our "New boys" impressed me Jedd List looks "a candidate" at this level. Competative in each of his three rides on a new track to him. Once he's settled in he'll be a find ! While reserves Josh Bailey with a great second heat win over Tigers red hot prospect (and top scorer) Drew Kemp and Ryan Kinsley both looked on the pace and able to make the step up from the NL this season. We need to be patient give these young guys the chance to find their feet and not be hasty to change the team at the first ? Youth is the way forward with British Speedway and that's in the DNA at Scunny. I'm really excited about watching the likes of Jedd; JB and Ryan breaking through we need to give them time! Should be a good meeting v Lions Nicholls; Richie Worrall ' "Basher" Bates and the quick return of are very own "Son of the Scun" Flying Ryan Douglas is sure to make this a close run thing. Sure the 2019 Scorpions will be determined to "tame em" !