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Wow.... didn't they do well......... I saw a few tweets saying they are on the job trying to signing riders. But I have never seen anything about a Supporters Meeting or making an announcement of the team. If it wasn't for DWP we would be non the wiser....... How can you defend attitude like that???.................

Yeah , and maybe Pigs will fly. In this day and age it only takes 2mins to post a tweet, or put a News Flash on the Website. Saying it : It is hoped we will be in a position to have a Supporters Meeting at the club, sometime in early December to announce the Stars team for 2017..... So bloody simple. and that took 1min 42sec.

Thanks for the information. Appreciated.... Well that one good rider, now trying to guess some more......

Nobody knocking him !! we are his biggest fans.. We all hope he signs for the Stars this year and hereafter...... But we are still entitled to an opinion. If we don't criticise, when we praise him it would means nothing, You have to have comparisons.... Blowing sunshine up ones A-SE all the time means nothing.... .

I see this as a guarenteed paycheck rather than a stepping stone. The Pols are a lot of things but stupid they are not. They no doubt, are aware that Lambert cant gate and until such time they think he's not good enough to compete the top leagues. I must be honest and say this gating thing really worries me. He should be far better at this than he is at present. Its all very exciting watching him come from the back but to be considered as world class he needs to get out of that gate. The gating technique is 70% of the game. If you can't do that then you'll only ever be an also ran. Looking back as his short career, how many meetings already, has he lost out at the final hurdle. Maxed out in the heats only to lose when it mattered. Its that important, I would have thought he would have employed a meteor, (I missed the N out and the computer replaced the intended word.. Sorry!!) because after competing for a few years he don't appear any better than he was when he started out. The higher the class of rider the more difficult it is to come from the back....... Rather than waste his time in the Polish 3rd Div. I would thought his time would be better learning how to trap. Think of all the top Polish riders at their young age, would they bother riding in the 3rd Div?? ........

The fact that no team announcements have been made, accept a few 'Tweets' saying they're working hard on putting a team together, am I right in thinking there may be a supporter meeting to make them announcement or am I still living in cuckoo land ????? Probably Buster been looking at a few of the suggestions on here and thinking 'that's a good idea', or probably 'Can't afford that!!' . Does anybody know what he's thinking ????...

Appreciate what you're trying to do and yes it represent a solid 1-7 team. My only issue is we leave our selves open for when the opposition has a strong No1 To be successful we need to win all matches at home and also some away. I feel the team you suggested would struggle to impose themselves against top class riders.. Because the league is everting back to the old heat format, it would be more important to have strong leaders and less in the reserve places.... I would rather go for something like, NKI (or Holder); Porsing; K. Bjerre (or Batch); Rose, Lambert; Huckenbeck and Bailey.. .. . I didn't think anybody was talking about one season wonders, but yes KB did have an impressive year. But my lasting memory of 2011 was having travelled to Dorset for the playoff Bjerre was a massive let down..... That was the only season when he was better than Niels....

It wasn't my intention to turn this thread into a 'Whose the best No1 Lynn has ever had'. I voiced an opinion, when replying to another post' of how important NKI has been for the Stars, and I stand by that comment when saying he is as good as any we have had, and that includes all those that has since been mentioned. No, I do not have a short memory, nor selective problems with certain riders. but it seem others suffer from them tainted memories. We should remember that the recent racing format gives riders like Niels a far stiffest challenge than anything before, he is racing against heat leaders in every race. Even so, for 6 years he has reign supreme at the top of the scores, always keeping Lynn in-with a chance of winning. He was forever present, being the ultimate example of a professional. In every race he gives his all, and is a perfect gentleman to suite. To compare any rider with the attributes and attitude of NKI is indeed a complement in itself..... Yes, we have had some special riders over the years, Terry Betts was the first. riding for 13 years he was a terrific talisman. he more than most put Kings Lynn on the map. Not of the World class others could be compared with , but a fantastic club man. Others like Rickardsson, Crump, Adams, Pedersen , and others who didn't stay long enough to be considered as worthy contestants to Niels claimed spot. Henka, Jessup, Loram and Topinka were all top riders and class opponents, but none reaching the height of Niels scores in regular competition. Michael Lee, I left till last. In all my years of following Lynn he was the most awesome riders I've ever seen. He could do things on a bike others could only dream of. He was capable of making the very best look like fools. When it came to talent, he was without equal. Unfortunately, once he had won that 1st world title it went pear shape. From that point he proceeded to undo all the wonderful things he had done and in the end he disappeared from everyone's lists.... So when looking back I am more than happy to class Niels as GOOD as any No1, Lynn has probably ever had....

Weak in 2 heats only, Reverting back to the old race format the reserves are not so important as the Fast tracks.... but just imagine how good the top end would be. Also once the team get their new averages come May , With the re-adjustment of the high rollers we could use them point to have better reserves. Hey- Presto!!

I like that a lot, Hugh potential, the only problem I can see is would Buster get enough through the gate to finance 3 bit hitters??? More sponsorship needed to facilitate a line up of this quality. It has always been my belief that it we produced the track for racing like it once was, We had a team to produce exciting racing all the time, and was sitting proudly at the top of the league, every meeting properly promoted on local media, the crowds would again flock in to the levels we use to enjoy......... An optimist to the end......

I've always been Niels greatest fan. Would travel miles just because he was riding. I appreciate more than most, what he has done for KL and without doubt he is equal to any No1 we have ever had. (that's a massive complement in itself). BUT we cannot have a rider in our team, who cannot commit 100% for all our meetings, whatever reason. All the good he does when riding for us, is undone the first meeting he misses.. We want to have a chance to be successful with a team that is a unit with plenty of fight and spirit. We can't have that if someone is going to be missing several meetings a year. Don't get me wrong. if Niels signs and commits 100% to the cause, I would be 1 'Happy Chappy' !!!!......

As much as I'd like to see NKI back at Lynn, I don't believe he can offer what the Stars require and that's a true No1 who will race every meeting. In each of the last couple of years he has missed meetings because of his hectic schedule and his preference of riding for other teams. For the club to benefit of the idea that we need a true No1 he has to be committed for every meeting. Probably AJ or Holder would be a better option. Neither of them have a Wednesday club clash and both in need of a British club.... 1, AJ / Holder 2, Porsing 3, Batch 4, L.Rose 5, Rob Lambert 6 Huckenbeck 7, Bailey I think the figures match up..

Looking at the majority of riders down to compete in British speedway, most can be bracketed a GOOD 2nd strings or FAIR 2nd and 3rd heatleaders. Each able to take points off each other. We could assemble a team of consistent riders all around the 7 mark, but not one guaranteed to max out. Whereas a strong No1 could come in and clear up. scoring 12 plus each meeting. Also, when we come to heats 10 to 15 in a tight match, to retain any hopes of success a strong No 1 is essential . I understand what people say about getting rid of the top riders because of costs, but that needs to be done via the rules. While they are allowed, teams will continue to use their ability to give them an advantage....... A strong No1 is essential if you want to win.......

Not wanting to disagree with Ford's proven team selection, but to dismiss Chris Holder from the team he has to be mad. Any other team would jump at the chance of having him in there team. Holder is the epitome of a top No rider who never lets you down. So what if his average is higher, whatever his score is I would take him everytime.... Send him to Saddlebow Road...... He'd be made most welcome....

I agree you cant compare the AFA to the NSS, but I imagine this decision was made because of issues surrounding the current payment owing to Manchester Council. At this early stage of programming, if this is the result of having the event at a track with a proven record or losing it then I say well done to the BSPA . No doubt the track will be inline with past similar events and not like the usual gate and go league matches track we have to endure......

What is more important, being Exciting or Winning? Every team can be exciting, but only one team can actually be winners. The\ excitement is what will put bums on seats and riders like Garrity will provide all the excitement a team wants. Give me excitement over winners everytime..... and riders like Garrity, and Lambert, should be the first names on the list....

I have this hunch that Batch will be riding for the Stars next year. He has spoken of his liking for the AFA , Roger Warnes is his main Sponsor and he sure has a point to prove after last year fiasco...... On his ridiculous low average he ought to be welcomed in every team, but fans perception of him is not that complimentary. This is a perfect time for Batch to start building bridges.... Watch this space..........

Most people on here are thinking that a rider with 7 or an 8 is too high. But we need to address the thinking of the top riders. riders like JD; CH, NKI are all averaged way above the 12 point ceiling, so when looking at people like Ellis, Garrity and similar they need to be of a proportion of that enlarged figure. So 7 for a decent 2nd string is not that high........

Does anyone know if Buster is planning a 'Supporters Meeting' like we once use to have? These last couple of years the connection and organisation for the fans has been forgotten. Was I hoping too much, expecting to get back to that level...... Was this another JC idea that has fell by the wayside?........ Not only was it a good night, but I imagine, a decent earner from the bar takings as well....... Come to think about it, most would pay a fiver for a night at the club anyway.....

I understand all that's been said about averages, conversions PL rides and EL rides, but there are still a couple of issues I have problems with. 1, Why was the conversion rate of 1.4 set so high. It is obvious the BSPA feel that was the difference between some of the riders. The biggest disparity between the riders happens with the EL reserves, and those averages aren't going to be used. Whereas, although the heat leader's average were much level they're subjected to a 1.4 conversion making there score well over the top. I appreciate this is for team building purposes only, but acquiring riders with PL average is far more beneficial than using riders with a 1.4 factor added on. A conversion of 1.2 would have been far more suitable and workable. Next question. 2, Am I right in thinking that when a riders races in both leagues, the scores he achieves in the top league means nothing as its his PL average that count ???? Surely a riders average has to take onto account all his meeting . So assuming Joe Bloggs on a 6, scores 6` in the PL and 10 in the EL , his average will remain the same. If, as we have been told, the average are to apply to both leagues then there has to be a formula to accumulate all rides on a comparative level. Probably it would have been better to calculate a riders average per ride instead of per match (similar to the method used aboard.) That way a rider would be worth a definite figure. Not wanting to moan about the good work the BSPA have done, hoping for a good season ahead. But the CMA has always been a bone of contention and unfortunately I don't see it being any different...

Wow !! you're missing the point here. A big point... The riders are financed by the fans and the paying public, if there were no FANS and support, then riders would not have the facility to race. Whereas if there were no riders the fans would spend their monies in supporting other ways. The finances dictate the importance of the situation. A riders needs the fans input, Its the supporter who has the deciding choice....... I understand the importance of D/U but implementing it causes many problems. I get the impression every rider wants to race in as many matches as possible. This obviously has its draw backs and effect the riders body and soul. How can he possibly give 100% to every race would he is feeling tired and knackered. But their availability is the governing factor. With the best will in the world there will always be fixture clashes where the parent club takes preference, but if we introduced a rule where there was not guests or RR allowed for these D/U absentees probably clubs would look at DU in a different light. I'm just trying to eliminate the need for Guests and RR except as the extreme emergency cover.....

My thinking was along the lines of riders missing our league in preference to riding in another country. I have no issue of our riders representing the country in major events, but when riders have league meeting clashes it inevitably means guest and RR for us.... That the biggest drawback our sport has always had...... I was hoping this would be one of the issues addressed at the recent AGM........ Going back in time when we had 13 heats, part of the second half was to give the reserves and lesser riders the opportunity to race against seasoned riders in their quest to improve. When the team was a rider short then these lesser riders were used as replacements. Back in the 70's we had an abundance of young riders coming through the ranks, but when we done away with second halves, we also close the opportunity these youngster had....

Having waited on 50 odd AGM's, this has to go down as a real positive. Far more has evolved than I could imagine, so well done to Buster and his merry men. I can see plenty to look forward to and hope that all clubs play it by the book. Obviously, there is still some tweaking needed but this is far better than I ever imagine. Like the Brexit vote, I hope we can run our sport individually from European countries and create a product that attract riders who want to be involved. There's more to Speedway than SGP meetings....

Yeah me too, I understand Lamberts plight, and also the possibility of him earning big bucks, but surely if we allow him too leave it really dampens any hope we have in appealing to lost supporters....or success. Buster need to up his game to acquire sponsorship purposely to finance a Lambert deal . If he agrees to let Robert go then Buster may as well shut up shop.... Robert Lambert is that important......

My sentiments exactly. Eagerly waiting with anticipation for news from AGM before even thinking of what the team might be.....