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Not 100 % true as I said on another topic first of all there always going to be a small crowd on a off race night plus you have to put some effort to promote the meeting as well with lower prices etc ...having a meeting on a off race night with sky in town and getting people to pay full price then you are always going to get the same result ,a small crowd .

Yet again it's not so much sky being there but the off race night .

Yea like that ..can't see Lakeside doing much here

Told you what ? if you finish 6 now it's the same as being 6th pre play offs ...tell me what pot of gold did you get for coming 6th in the old days ..i tell you the answer the same as get you get now nothing . Unlees you can tell us what was so great about where you came in the league pre plays off and what you got as a reward then your point is useless .

No chance the way he rides and acts he unlikely to get past season without a big crash or being arrested ...great talent but won't be a world champion under this format

Never said that at all ...you said that teams try harder in the old days at the end of the season because there was no play offs and I I ask you why that was ..as far as I can see 6th was 6th then and 6th was 6th now and riders still rode for points money ..so just explain why it was so important as you said about where your team came before the play offs ? By the way teams dropping points to strengthen up it's nothing new it's happen all the time in the good old days as well .

Pretty stupid logic on both points ...first because you would go any day does not mean that everyone else would Also it is a fact that more people go to a regular race night rather than a off night that is just common sense . As for you second point why was it important to finish as high before the play offs than it is now ? 6th was still 6th then as 6th is still 6th today ..did you get into Europe in the old days for being 6th or have missed something ? the system now means that Lakeside and ,Poole's seasons are still alive unlike the old days where they would only have only pride to ride for .

Said many time before the problem with empty stadiums was showing matches only on Monday nights meaning that many of the matches were run on off nights . Speedway tv matches should have been any night and on a teams race night rather than Mondays only. To me that was a massive mistake .

Well you follow and reply to his every post .so yea you must do .

So why not say that ? that is the problem with you, you keep banging on about having respect for people's opinions but the moment you get into a debate you result to name calling if they don't agree with your own ...this was just another example .

How many times do people keep saying that ? read the report again is was not just weed it was pills as welland who know what else he takes ? ...this point about drink and weed and what should be legal means nothing ,I am sure all us have laws we don't like or don't agree with but for the uk to work we have to accept them, s, intill it it's legal then Lee is doing wrong .

Shame about the track ..people chasing back wheels all night

Yea of course he was

Unlike Lee

What is a character ? in your list you include a serial drug taken a murdered ...if that is how you are judging people then Ward after the year he has had must be a all time great !

Great post ..let get more drug takers and dealers into the sport .

First of all it was not just Cannabis and the fact that it is not a crime elsewhere means nothing .

Of course it's worst because he's a serial offender and 53 not a 21 year old ..bit late to address a problem in Lee's case .the fact that he's change hs story from the one he told the court tells you have little desire to address it ...i agree with you on most of what you say but not in Lee's case as he done the same thing two many times .

Why is it harsh ? even the BSPA can't have a serial drug offended to run a speedway club

Yea looks like he trying to safe his own skin , he told his lawyer that he was taking drugs now this week he's says he's not been taking them for ages ..thats why I never feel sorry for as over years he gets caught only to say he's stopping only to be caught out again .

Was there no heat 13 in the old days then ? you may prefer the old tac rule but the point you were trying to make that somehow it was fairer when of course when you look at the facts it is not the case Fisher would have got two points the fact remains it's still away win old rules or new rules

First of all the guy who work out it was a draw had all the facts wrong so in fact it was a Away win still ...it's quite clear why they piddle about with the old system as it cost to much to pay riders who were on high pay who were replaceing low paid riders . Thou in the World cup we have seen riders let others go past so there team can use a joker I can't remember that happening in The El, first of all the riders would be losing points money and even it has happened I sure there was plenty of times under the old rules when teams fell 6 points behind on purpose so they could used a tac sub or sometimes a double tac sub .

Where of course it was worth using the old tac sub in every race lol ..

To fair in the old days iv'e him scored 0 and1 many a time at Swindon he used to hate the place thou he's been better in recent times ,

loss as 5 -3 still gives Boro the win thou what that has got to do with new rule being unfair to the old rule god only knows ... now as I asked you 3 times how many extra points could you score under the new rule and how many under the old rule ? why is it takeing you so long to come up with the answer ? Try to understand on one is saying the new rule is good or fair but to said your thought the old rule was fair is stupid ...how many matches do you think the old tac sub changed ?