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Most of the above could sum yourself up ...not sure why you think act somehow different to the next person . The bottom line is if your going say silly things like the tac rule was fairer than double points or that 8th place was important before the play offs then people are going argue with you .

Well of course not but anyone with a clue about speedway would understand that a off night is going bring in less fans .

Maybe I made a typo on how many passes there were

Well without even looking to hard I can tell you that Pedersen was not even in heat 5 ..shame that you got it wrong straight away after no doubt spending so much time in trying to make yourself look clever ..bit of advice if you going ask someone what match they are watching you need to get the facts 100 % correct or you will look stupid ...what were you saying by the way about making up stuff that did not happen ? Bit shocked that you made such a mistake as your maths are so good

The European championship last round was one of the worst meetings ive seen hardly one pass ...last night was miles better than that just go's to show that you have made up your mind before the meeting has even taken place .

The match tonight had plenty of decent racing ...how can be another bore ? most of the sky matches have been decent this year .I find it amazing the number of people who call it rubbish just for the sake of it even when it's not .

Not 100 % true as I said on another topic first of all there always going to be a small crowd on a off race night plus you have to put some effort to promote the meeting as well with lower prices etc ...having a meeting on a off race night with sky in town and getting people to pay full price then you are always going to get the same result ,a small crowd .

Yet again it's not so much sky being there but the off race night .

Yea like that ..can't see Lakeside doing much here

Told you what ? if you finish 6 now it's the same as being 6th pre play offs ...tell me what pot of gold did you get for coming 6th in the old days ..i tell you the answer the same as get you get now nothing . Unlees you can tell us what was so great about where you came in the league pre plays off and what you got as a reward then your point is useless .

No chance the way he rides and acts he unlikely to get past season without a big crash or being arrested ...great talent but won't be a world champion under this format

Never said that at all ...you said that teams try harder in the old days at the end of the season because there was no play offs and I I ask you why that was ..as far as I can see 6th was 6th then and 6th was 6th now and riders still rode for points money ..so just explain why it was so important as you said about where your team came before the play offs ? By the way teams dropping points to strengthen up it's nothing new it's happen all the time in the good old days as well .

Pretty stupid logic on both points ...first because you would go any day does not mean that everyone else would Also it is a fact that more people go to a regular race night rather than a off night that is just common sense . As for you second point why was it important to finish as high before the play offs than it is now ? 6th was still 6th then as 6th is still 6th today ..did you get into Europe in the old days for being 6th or have missed something ? the system now means that Lakeside and ,Poole's seasons are still alive unlike the old days where they would only have only pride to ride for .

Said many time before the problem with empty stadiums was showing matches only on Monday nights meaning that many of the matches were run on off nights . Speedway tv matches should have been any night and on a teams race night rather than Mondays only. To me that was a massive mistake .

Well you follow and reply to his every post .so yea you must do .

So why not say that ? that is the problem with you, you keep banging on about having respect for people's opinions but the moment you get into a debate you result to name calling if they don't agree with your own ...this was just another example .

How many times do people keep saying that ? read the report again is was not just weed it was pills as welland who know what else he takes ? ...this point about drink and weed and what should be legal means nothing ,I am sure all us have laws we don't like or don't agree with but for the uk to work we have to accept them, s, intill it it's legal then Lee is doing wrong .

Shame about the track ..people chasing back wheels all night

Yea of course he was

Unlike Lee

What is a character ? in your list you include a serial drug taken a murdered ...if that is how you are judging people then Ward after the year he has had must be a all time great !

Great post ..let get more drug takers and dealers into the sport .

First of all it was not just Cannabis and the fact that it is not a crime elsewhere means nothing .

Of course it's worst because he's a serial offender and 53 not a 21 year old ..bit late to address a problem in Lee's case .the fact that he's change hs story from the one he told the court tells you have little desire to address it ...i agree with you on most of what you say but not in Lee's case as he done the same thing two many times .

Why is it harsh ? even the BSPA can't have a serial drug offended to run a speedway club