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Many apologies Trees. I blame ScottyFan!!! Have a word with your chairman chappie and tell him to get his finger out!!!

So I wonder who the other 2 'foreigners' will be for Torun - with Hancock also being rumoured?????

I don't necessarily agree with all that you say. If the published averages (BSPA website) are not to be used - whether in an agreed HL list or not - whats the point of publishing the figures. Davey Watt (for example) has spent the vast majority of his recent EL career as an EL heat leader, as has Hans Andersen. If some sort of official figure is not used to differentiate between riders then it simply comes down to someone's opinion, as to who appears where on any list or not. Why should a fan's opinion be any more relevant than the promoters or some BSPA/SCB administrator - as long as it is agreed by all clubs before the team building begins? You will never get all fans to agree on everything - as this forum demonstrates in every thread every day!! The point is that the promoters have agreed such lists (with a maximum of 3 heat leaders from that list) and it is they that build the teams starting from the same position.

So Buzz on 6.48 is a heat leader but Watt (if he is signed) is a second string??! Don't think so - but then I don't think it'll be Holder and Watt anyway. But would be happy if I'm wrong.

King is on an identical average (6.48) to Poole's new heat leader Buzczkowski so Q.E.D. I guess?! Anything other than heat leader would just be cheating manipulating the rules wouldn't it??

I think Kerr and Rose are the top 2 reserves, as they were in 2014.

Danny King 6.48 to Coventry

THJ is a Title winner with Poole and a Poole asset and on 5.69 (I think) he would be another steal!! He actually wanted to do a full season in 2014 but unfortunately didn't fit the numbers game at the time.

Matt Ford states that Buzz will start as a heat leader and expects him to stay a heat leader! So with speculation from one or two that Brady Kurtz is a 'shoe-in' on 5.24, that leaves 15.23 for the final 2.

Yes a 6.48 heat leader. The Readypower connection works again!!!!

This season just gone the points limit was 40.5 with the 2 EDRs taking 6.5 of those points. In 2016 the points limit is still 40.5 but in many cases (including Poole) the reserves take up in excess of 7 points - so in real terms the points limit is reduced for the 1-5s!! And guess what, every team starts with the same opportunities. (EDIT: I see others have posted similar.)

Scott is a heat leader in the final BSPA averages even though he rode as a second string in the final against Poole. Agree about Josh G!!! Also THJ as a second string - now he's not in the GPs!!!?

Or judging by everyone else's opinion of KK we could have him instead of Antonio - just to even things out a bit!!!! Edit: beat me to it Lisa-Colette.

.....stands back and waits......................

Speedway Star averages mean nothing in team building!!

KK has signed a 2 year deal at Gdansk in Poland!

Only if Dak's father is fully recovered!!

Great news for Bees fans. Its his spiritual home!!

I think KK was on 8.39 last time he raced in EL in 2012?? Having been away for more than a while, like any other similar rider, he would probably get a reduction?!

He had as much influence as all the other promoters - just not as Chairman!!!

He was - but not on Saturdays.

Don't Doyle and NKI both live in the UK?!

3 AGMs???? The main reason the AGM was in 2 parts is a constitutional one. The BSPA constitution (like most other associations) will state that the AGM must be on a specific date or in a specific month. When BSPA tried to do the decent thing and make some decisions earlier than usual ie in October, someone forgot that the Constitution says November - which is why the AGM had to be re-convened (and I'm sure the Constitution updated!!). We do know the number of EL clubs - 8. We do know the number of fixtures - just look at some of the club season ticket prices for the number of meetings (although that does raise the question of whether it is right to announce season ticket prices before teams are known??!) In many respects - from an administrative point of view - the BSPA is no different to any other national association. Its meeting minutes are made available to its members (the Promoters) and a statement/press release is issued to the public/media if and when appropriate as a summary of their key decisions. We are still a couple of weeks ahead of previous years.

Matt Ford recently said there would be EL squads by 2017, having been pushing for it for several seasons!! Yet it suddenly becomes a proposal full of support because another promoter has suggested it!! Anyway, so a new rider to lead the Pirates according to the Echo article - I wonder.............??!

But if Poland/Sweden go 't!!t$-up', then the British clubs will have a far stronger negotiating hand!!